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<blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 192358" data-attributes="member: 151"><p>With respect, Azlan, you're either going to have to get used to it, or don't engage in a public forum. hong may be out of line, at times, but this is third or fourth time you've painted with a fairly broad brush, and then act suprised when folks take offense.</p><p></p><p>In the thread you linked to above, you refered to anyone who disagreed with you as 'elitists' and implied they were roleplaying zealots. Did that warrant hong's reply? I certainly don't think so. But I'm fairly sure that's what prompted it.</p><p></p><p>Here, anyone who posts regularly is apparently either a troll or counterproductive and sophmoric rules-lawyer, if I'm to take your obviously frustrated post above at face value. I might suggest that you probably should just lurk for a while and get a better feel for the dynamic here first, instead of just diving in. Most of the posters here are NOT trolling, you might find. In point of fact, I find this one of the best discussion forums that I've ever been to.</p><p></p><p>Many of the folks so far have taken as much issue with the tone of your posts as their content. The problem is that often, the topics you're broaching have already been discussed a great deal, sometimes to a standstill. Worse, when someone arrives with less experience than some of those who've argued, and then proceeds to explain that 3E is broken in the high-level game, although they dislike high-level games, and then make a few rules gaffes, it undercuts their argument.</p><p></p><p>A large problem is that you immediately arrive and say, essentially, 'min/maxers, powergamers and jerks' all buy these items in my game...this is a symptom of how broken 3E and especially magic items with 3E are'. Given your evowed dislike for higher-powered games, and magic items in general, this is not terribly suprising. But you need to understand that many gamers don't percieve the default magic item level in 3E as a problem...and that they're not all going to agree with you, regardless of how convincing your argument is.</p><p></p><p>If you feel that this is an unpleasant place to discuss D&D, wait'll you try the WOTC boards, RPG.NET or Nutkinland. People don't feel the need to sugarcoat their feelings for Eric's grandmother. They have some great discussions...but they can become an angry mob <strong><em>fast</em></strong>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WizarDru, post: 192358, member: 151"] With respect, Azlan, you're either going to have to get used to it, or don't engage in a public forum. hong may be out of line, at times, but this is third or fourth time you've painted with a fairly broad brush, and then act suprised when folks take offense. In the thread you linked to above, you refered to anyone who disagreed with you as 'elitists' and implied they were roleplaying zealots. Did that warrant hong's reply? I certainly don't think so. But I'm fairly sure that's what prompted it. Here, anyone who posts regularly is apparently either a troll or counterproductive and sophmoric rules-lawyer, if I'm to take your obviously frustrated post above at face value. I might suggest that you probably should just lurk for a while and get a better feel for the dynamic here first, instead of just diving in. Most of the posters here are NOT trolling, you might find. In point of fact, I find this one of the best discussion forums that I've ever been to. Many of the folks so far have taken as much issue with the tone of your posts as their content. The problem is that often, the topics you're broaching have already been discussed a great deal, sometimes to a standstill. Worse, when someone arrives with less experience than some of those who've argued, and then proceeds to explain that 3E is broken in the high-level game, although they dislike high-level games, and then make a few rules gaffes, it undercuts their argument. A large problem is that you immediately arrive and say, essentially, 'min/maxers, powergamers and jerks' all buy these items in my game...this is a symptom of how broken 3E and especially magic items with 3E are'. Given your evowed dislike for higher-powered games, and magic items in general, this is not terribly suprising. But you need to understand that many gamers don't percieve the default magic item level in 3E as a problem...and that they're not all going to agree with you, regardless of how convincing your argument is. If you feel that this is an unpleasant place to discuss D&D, wait'll you try the WOTC boards, RPG.NET or Nutkinland. People don't feel the need to sugarcoat their feelings for Eric's grandmother. They have some great discussions...but they can become an angry mob [b][i]fast[/i][/b]. [/QUOTE]
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