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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8085746" data-attributes="member: 18">What you're describing is at odds with the situation, though.If a PC is trying to identify some tracks, or a particular kind of dust, or a deeply obscure religious symbol (the sort of thing Holmes does), if the player decides to say that their PC says X, well, sure. Anyone can do that. It doesn't interact with INT or with knowledge skills or whatever, but equally, it's almost certainly total bollocks. And if it consistently isn't, that's a metagaming problem.If they want their PC to make an actual honest attempt to identify the thing in question, though, rather than spouting bollocks, they're going to need to make a check, or ask the DM if their character knows (which you might reasonably determine they do/do not based on their actual character background, area of expertise, stats and so on). It's deeply inconsistent to do otherwise, unless you allow people to do things like narrate leaping chasms and so on (fine if you do).I mean, the &quot;Stupid detective who talks bollocks&quot; is a trope almost as old as Holmes. They walk in to the scene, and start making proclaimations, but because they're thick as two short planks, however confident and detailed the proclaimations are, they're complete nonsense, and just leading you down the garden path (there are shades of this with the detective in Knives Out! recently).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8085746, member: 18"] What you're describing is at odds with the situation, though. If a PC is trying to identify some tracks, or a particular kind of dust, or a deeply obscure religious symbol (the sort of thing Holmes does), if the player decides to say that their PC says X, well, sure. Anyone can do that. It doesn't interact with INT or with knowledge skills or whatever, but equally, it's almost certainly total bollocks. And if it consistently isn't, that's a metagaming problem. If they want their PC to make an actual honest attempt to identify the thing in question, though, rather than spouting bollocks, they're going to need to make a check, or ask the DM if their character knows (which you might reasonably determine they do/do not based on their actual character background, area of expertise, stats and so on). It's deeply inconsistent to do otherwise, unless you allow people to do things like narrate leaping chasms and so on (fine if you do). I mean, the "Stupid detective who talks bollocks" is a trope almost as old as Holmes. They walk in to the scene, and start making proclaimations, but because they're thick as two short planks, however confident and detailed the proclaimations are, they're complete nonsense, and just leading you down the garden path (there are shades of this with the detective in Knives Out! recently). [/QUOTE]

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