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<blockquote data-quote="Swarmkeeper" data-source="post: 8087814" data-attributes="member: 6921763">Disagree.And I'm saying that fluff, while mostly in the hand's of the DM, is not the sole domain of the DM.&nbsp; Please cite the rule that says it is.Huh?&nbsp; No DM is letting the player override the mechanical result adjudicated by said DM.&nbsp; And no trusted player is making up that there is a banana peel in the scenario for lolz if it is not appropriate to the scene (although some might play that way and if they're having fun so be it).Duty not shirked.&nbsp; Result of action narrated:&nbsp; trip.I'm talking about asking the player, after they've failed the roll, why their PC tripped on the rock:&nbsp; &quot;my character, whose flaw is that she is distracted by shiny things, caught a sparkling glint off some mica on the wall and missed the very real trip hazard right in front of her nose.&quot;&nbsp; I trust my players to sometimes add appropriate flavor to what their character is doing in a success or fail state.&nbsp; As DM I'm either going to ask the player to describe why they tripped OR I'm simply going to say that failing the roll resulted in a trip.&nbsp; And we move on the the start of the play cycle either way.&nbsp; As DM, I'm NOT going to embellish the result any more than that by narrating what the character was otherwise doing or thinking that caused the fall:&nbsp; &quot;You look up at the ceiling because you fear more piercers are in the area and trip on the rock.&quot;&nbsp; That is not shirking duty to avoid the embellishment, that's sticking to the DM's role.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Swarmkeeper, post: 8087814, member: 6921763"] Disagree. And I'm saying that fluff, while mostly in the hand's of the DM, is not the sole domain of the DM. Please cite the rule that says it is. Huh? No DM is letting the player override the mechanical result adjudicated by said DM. And no trusted player is making up that there is a banana peel in the scenario for lolz if it is not appropriate to the scene (although some might play that way and if they're having fun so be it). Duty not shirked. Result of action narrated: trip. I'm talking about asking the player, after they've failed the roll, why their PC tripped on the rock: "my character, whose flaw is that she is distracted by shiny things, caught a sparkling glint off some mica on the wall and missed the very real trip hazard right in front of her nose." I trust my players to sometimes add appropriate flavor to what their character is doing in a success or fail state. As DM I'm either going to ask the player to describe why they tripped OR I'm simply going to say that failing the roll resulted in a trip. And we move on the the start of the play cycle either way. As DM, I'm NOT going to embellish the result any more than that by narrating what the character was otherwise doing or thinking that caused the fall: "You look up at the ceiling because you fear more piercers are in the area and trip on the rock." That is not shirking duty to avoid the embellishment, that's sticking to the DM's role. [/QUOTE]

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