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Weird invisibility loophole saves Hiding but ruins the spell: Lose the Condition's benefits without losing the Condition
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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 9440242" data-attributes="member: 6788736"><p>Where it says 'the DM determines when you can hide'. Translation is 'apply common sense'.</p><p></p><p><strong>Example:</strong></p><p></p><p>You go behind cover, hide (as the action) pass your DC15 Check and you're now invisible.</p><p></p><p>You now want to sneak up on a creature for a 'backstab'.</p><p></p><p>The DM <em>can </em>rule you can sneak up behind a certain creature and retain that hidden/ invisible condition and 'backstab' because the creatures attention is elsewhere.</p><p></p><p>The DM can <em>also </em>rule you cant do this, because the creature is looking straight where you hid, and you reveal yourself (it 'finds you') the instant you leave your hiding spot.</p><p></p><p>There is no facing in 5e, so its just a question of common sense, and the relevant context of the action, as determined by the DM.</p><p></p><p>It's a DMs call. Like every ruling in the game, for all time.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, it doesnt.</p><p></p><p>It just requires a DM (and to a lesser extent, Players) exercising common sense.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 9440242, member: 6788736"] Where it says 'the DM determines when you can hide'. Translation is 'apply common sense'. [B]Example:[/B] You go behind cover, hide (as the action) pass your DC15 Check and you're now invisible. You now want to sneak up on a creature for a 'backstab'. The DM [I]can [/I]rule you can sneak up behind a certain creature and retain that hidden/ invisible condition and 'backstab' because the creatures attention is elsewhere. The DM can [I]also [/I]rule you cant do this, because the creature is looking straight where you hid, and you reveal yourself (it 'finds you') the instant you leave your hiding spot. There is no facing in 5e, so its just a question of common sense, and the relevant context of the action, as determined by the DM. It's a DMs call. Like every ruling in the game, for all time. No, it doesnt. It just requires a DM (and to a lesser extent, Players) exercising common sense. [/QUOTE]
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