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Weird invisibility loophole saves Hiding but ruins the spell: Lose the Condition's benefits without losing the Condition
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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 9440956" data-attributes="member: 6788736"><p>That wasnt your argument though. You said the spell and hiding did the same thing, but they dont.</p><p></p><p>And in the sarcophagus (while hidden) you only have the invisible condition due to hiding (behind your 3/4 cover). If that cover is disintegrated (or someone literally just walks over and looks in) they 'find you' , and you lose the condition.</p><p></p><p>You're not invisible when hiding because you're <em>translucent</em>. You're invisible when hiding <em>because there is something between you and the observer </em>(3/4 cover).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The Search action is not the only way you can find a hidden creature though, and it never has been.</p><p></p><p>Even in the old rules a creature hidden in a sarcophagus is automatically detected if someone lifts the lid and peers on in, and a creature hidden in darkness is revealed automatically if someone turns on the lights.</p><p></p><p>No Search action required.</p><p></p><p>Just use common sense, like you would with any other ruling.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 9440956, member: 6788736"] That wasnt your argument though. You said the spell and hiding did the same thing, but they dont. And in the sarcophagus (while hidden) you only have the invisible condition due to hiding (behind your 3/4 cover). If that cover is disintegrated (or someone literally just walks over and looks in) they 'find you' , and you lose the condition. You're not invisible when hiding because you're [I]translucent[/I]. You're invisible when hiding [I]because there is something between you and the observer [/I](3/4 cover). The Search action is not the only way you can find a hidden creature though, and it never has been. Even in the old rules a creature hidden in a sarcophagus is automatically detected if someone lifts the lid and peers on in, and a creature hidden in darkness is revealed automatically if someone turns on the lights. No Search action required. Just use common sense, like you would with any other ruling. [/QUOTE]
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