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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 1302147" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>I agree, though there is room for you to contest it.</p><p></p><p>A Stone-to-Fleshed statue becomes a corpse. This is explicit in the spell text.</p><p></p><p>What it is <em>not</em> is a "dead creature".</p><p></p><p>Raise Dead targets a dead creature; it is not a dead creature, so it is an invalid target for Raise Dead.</p><p></p><p>Animate Dead targets one or more corpses. Create Undead targets a corpse. It is a corpse, therefore it is a valid target for these spells.</p><p></p><p>The wiggle room is that the first sentence of flavour text for Animate Dead states that it turns the bodies of <em>dead creatures</em> into skeletons or zombies. If you claim that this is an exclusive rules provision, then it allows you to animate that dead orc over there (both a corpse, <em>and</em> the body of a dead creature), but not this transmuted statue (a corpse, but not the body of a dead creature).</p><p></p><p>And since Create Undead is explicitly a more powerful version of Animate Dead, you can argue that the same provision applies.</p><p></p><p>Now, I personally think that Create Undead is unambiguously useable with a transmuted statue. But there's further room for denial with Animate Dead - to create a skeleton, the corpse <em>must have bones</em>, and Stone to Flesh creates a corpse, but doesn't mention bones. To create a zombie, you must have the corpse <em>of a creature with an anatomy</em>, and the transmuted statue is not the corpse <em>of a creature</em> at all, but rather the corpse of a <em>representation</em> of a creature.</p><p></p><p>So you can argue against Customer Service's reply if you disagree with it <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 1302147, member: 1656"] I agree, though there is room for you to contest it. A Stone-to-Fleshed statue becomes a corpse. This is explicit in the spell text. What it is [i]not[/i] is a "dead creature". Raise Dead targets a dead creature; it is not a dead creature, so it is an invalid target for Raise Dead. Animate Dead targets one or more corpses. Create Undead targets a corpse. It is a corpse, therefore it is a valid target for these spells. The wiggle room is that the first sentence of flavour text for Animate Dead states that it turns the bodies of [i]dead creatures[/i] into skeletons or zombies. If you claim that this is an exclusive rules provision, then it allows you to animate that dead orc over there (both a corpse, [i]and[/i] the body of a dead creature), but not this transmuted statue (a corpse, but not the body of a dead creature). And since Create Undead is explicitly a more powerful version of Animate Dead, you can argue that the same provision applies. Now, I personally think that Create Undead is unambiguously useable with a transmuted statue. But there's further room for denial with Animate Dead - to create a skeleton, the corpse [i]must have bones[/i], and Stone to Flesh creates a corpse, but doesn't mention bones. To create a zombie, you must have the corpse [i]of a creature with an anatomy[/i], and the transmuted statue is not the corpse [i]of a creature[/i] at all, but rather the corpse of a [i]representation[/i] of a creature. So you can argue against Customer Service's reply if you disagree with it :) -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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