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<blockquote data-quote="Jeremy Ackerman-Yost" data-source="post: 4834021" data-attributes="member: 4720"><p>Fundamentally, that was a rant against 90% of comic books and comic book heroes. You claim at the end to like comic books, but only after lambasting all of the genre conventions.</p><p></p><p>You are basically espousing the execution of lawbreakers here. I'm fairly sure we don't want the police routinely shooting lawbreakers dead rather than bringing them to trial. Why would we want the Marvel Universe version of the police (for all intents and purposes) killing their enemies? Allowing the ends to justify the means is a very slippery slope. The bloodthirsty have the Punisher if they need that. Some characters <em>should</em> hold themselves to a different set of standards.</p><p></p><p>For another thing.... you're painting very broad with that moral relativism brush. I know quite a number of military men and women and LOTS of police, both friends and family. They do not all fall prey to the notion that the expediency of killing people who present problems is the right course of action. Sometimes it is. Most often it is not. Heck, there are even "military situations" where killing is a bad move... and some of my friends who have been to war would be the first to say so.</p><p></p><p>I don't even want to touch the leadership strawman you built. I'm having trouble believing you've ever read even a bad Captain America comic if you can seriously apply this paragraph to Cap.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is a distinction between leading in a military or tactical situation and dictating policy and the personal behavior of non-military personnel.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeremy Ackerman-Yost, post: 4834021, member: 4720"] Fundamentally, that was a rant against 90% of comic books and comic book heroes. You claim at the end to like comic books, but only after lambasting all of the genre conventions. You are basically espousing the execution of lawbreakers here. I'm fairly sure we don't want the police routinely shooting lawbreakers dead rather than bringing them to trial. Why would we want the Marvel Universe version of the police (for all intents and purposes) killing their enemies? Allowing the ends to justify the means is a very slippery slope. The bloodthirsty have the Punisher if they need that. Some characters [I]should[/I] hold themselves to a different set of standards. For another thing.... you're painting very broad with that moral relativism brush. I know quite a number of military men and women and LOTS of police, both friends and family. They do not all fall prey to the notion that the expediency of killing people who present problems is the right course of action. Sometimes it is. Most often it is not. Heck, there are even "military situations" where killing is a bad move... and some of my friends who have been to war would be the first to say so. I don't even want to touch the leadership strawman you built. I'm having trouble believing you've ever read even a bad Captain America comic if you can seriously apply this paragraph to Cap. There is a distinction between leading in a military or tactical situation and dictating policy and the personal behavior of non-military personnel. [/QUOTE]
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