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<blockquote data-quote="Silver Moon" data-source="post: 1535569" data-attributes="member: 8530"><p>I'm going to disagree with you on that one. Amber deserved to win, earning it. Sure, some of her comments on the final show were rather inane and hinted that she didn't really understand the game, but from a strategy standpoint she won. </p><p></p><p>Look at it this way, in all of the team competitions Chapera won hands down. There was no comparision - they were the professionals acting like a team compared to the other two groups of amateurs. And Rob M. was the unquestionable leader of that team. Once he got rid of Rob C., his only actual competition for leadership, he had it made. Sure, many of us liked Kathy, Shi-Ann, and some of the others, but their "tribes" didn't act like the All-Stars they were billed as while Chapera did.</p><p></p><p>And yes, when the show got predictable at 10 players the producers tried to mix it up by shuffling the tribes - but as all of us Role Players know, sometimes the dice are just stacked against you. Going into that mix-up with 6 to 4 mathematically one Chapera had to shift to Mogo Mogo, but the odds of that being the ONLY change were incredibly low, yet that is exactly what happened. Then Lex, Cathy and Shi-Ann made their fatal error in allowing their hatred for Jerri to override their common sense. From the moment they did that neither of those three deserved to win. And Amber played no small part in also helping to convince them to keep her instead of Jerri, so don't discount that.</p><p></p><p>As for the others, Rupert and Jenna played a good game and stuck to their alliance. Tom and Alicia were far too trusting in sticking with their alliance ever after common sense should have told them not to. As a fellow New Hampshire resident I would have liked to have seen Jenna win, but she lost it fair and square in the final challenge, just as Rupert lost to Amber in the one before, thus setting the stage for the rest of the game. In fact, Amber and Rob won most of the challenges. </p><p></p><p>So why do I say that Amber deserved it more than Rob? Because the Jury is a big part of the game too, and Rob totally blew that one while she didn't. Face it, "Good Cop, Bad Cop" is a known strategy too, that she used to her advantage. Her straight-up answer to Alisha of 'sure I lied, but his lies were greater' actually worked! </p><p></p><p>As for the live final hour, yeah, it was a train-wreck. I think that more went on during the commercial breaks than they acutally let on (is there anyone out there with satellite feeds and/or people who were at Madison Square Garden who saw those parts?). I'll give Jeff and Mark credit for actually pulling it back together in the last fifteen minutes. Still, it was hardly their finiest-hour, which is part of why I'm glad they have the Thursday follow-up show so as not to leave off with what we saw the other day as the ending.</p><p></p><p>The real problem with doing an All-Star is that it makes it ever harder to follow it up. Is anyone out there excited about Survivor IX? I'm not.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Silver Moon, post: 1535569, member: 8530"] I'm going to disagree with you on that one. Amber deserved to win, earning it. Sure, some of her comments on the final show were rather inane and hinted that she didn't really understand the game, but from a strategy standpoint she won. Look at it this way, in all of the team competitions Chapera won hands down. There was no comparision - they were the professionals acting like a team compared to the other two groups of amateurs. And Rob M. was the unquestionable leader of that team. Once he got rid of Rob C., his only actual competition for leadership, he had it made. Sure, many of us liked Kathy, Shi-Ann, and some of the others, but their "tribes" didn't act like the All-Stars they were billed as while Chapera did. And yes, when the show got predictable at 10 players the producers tried to mix it up by shuffling the tribes - but as all of us Role Players know, sometimes the dice are just stacked against you. Going into that mix-up with 6 to 4 mathematically one Chapera had to shift to Mogo Mogo, but the odds of that being the ONLY change were incredibly low, yet that is exactly what happened. Then Lex, Cathy and Shi-Ann made their fatal error in allowing their hatred for Jerri to override their common sense. From the moment they did that neither of those three deserved to win. And Amber played no small part in also helping to convince them to keep her instead of Jerri, so don't discount that. As for the others, Rupert and Jenna played a good game and stuck to their alliance. Tom and Alicia were far too trusting in sticking with their alliance ever after common sense should have told them not to. As a fellow New Hampshire resident I would have liked to have seen Jenna win, but she lost it fair and square in the final challenge, just as Rupert lost to Amber in the one before, thus setting the stage for the rest of the game. In fact, Amber and Rob won most of the challenges. So why do I say that Amber deserved it more than Rob? Because the Jury is a big part of the game too, and Rob totally blew that one while she didn't. Face it, "Good Cop, Bad Cop" is a known strategy too, that she used to her advantage. Her straight-up answer to Alisha of 'sure I lied, but his lies were greater' actually worked! As for the live final hour, yeah, it was a train-wreck. I think that more went on during the commercial breaks than they acutally let on (is there anyone out there with satellite feeds and/or people who were at Madison Square Garden who saw those parts?). I'll give Jeff and Mark credit for actually pulling it back together in the last fifteen minutes. Still, it was hardly their finiest-hour, which is part of why I'm glad they have the Thursday follow-up show so as not to leave off with what we saw the other day as the ending. The real problem with doing an All-Star is that it makes it ever harder to follow it up. Is anyone out there excited about Survivor IX? I'm not. [/QUOTE]
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