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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Twowolves" data-source="post: 1466896" data-attributes="member: 18093">Which is my point in the first place. This prestige class would deny the monk the use of any of these toys. Now, are the benefits gained enough to offset that loss, or would giving better BAB progression or HD offset that loss at all?And what happens if they violate their sacred oaths and use a weapon? They don't get into heaven! The background fluff of the class essentially says they are eternally reincarnated upon death, resuming their search for perfection from one life to another until they achieve it (10th level in the PrC), at which time they ascend to heaven when next they die. So basically, using a weapon is worse than death, since they believe they will be reincarnated if they die anyway. As for game mechanic penalties, I haven't really considered it as of yet.Twowolves</blockquote>