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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Virel" data-source="post: 2194250" data-attributes="member: 24633">I have played in ToH on two occassions and my PC survived both times. They were treasured characters and part of a the on going campaign. About 1/2 of the party died the first time. The second time a few years later, I don't think one PC died.I've also DM'd ToH several times as part of my campaign. Normally, there are several PC's that are totally destoryed. I haven't had a TPK yet. I do tend to start the players off right with deadly homebrew and save or die situations at low levels. I mean if your rolling a save you've already done something you deserve to die for right? <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> Two weeks ago, one of my homebrews which I hoped showed a ToH spirit, had several of the new players become suddenly convinced they were actually in ToH with 1st level characters. I think it was the lack of monsters, combined with puzzles and a few quality traps. When they learned they were not in ToH after the session, I had to promise them I would run ToH and they could see for themselves what hardcore AD&D is like.I will run ToH with my new groups. It's a basic part of being initiated in becoming a hardcore 1st ed AD&D player. They like the deadly adventures I've thrown their way so far, so ToH, they will face. If someone wants to sit out that's fine. Of course the other players will laugh at that person.Play smart and ToH is fun and your PC has a decent chance of living. Play stupid and Darwin will take care of the problem. As fo R2tTOH, I have it and I will run it as part of my campaign. I have high expectations of players and their abilities. I trust most will use their long time characters. In fact several players very much want to run that characters that lived thru ToH, in R2tTOH, and we will as soon as it's the right time campaign wise. Several new players need to make a few more level etc.I would be shocked if any of the experienced players "Barbie" with their long term characters. I think there might a one or two of the newest players that "Barbie" with their characers on ToH.In any case, it will be fun and ToH will be good for the long term campaign as it always has been in the past.If a player wants to sit instead of play, let them.</blockquote>

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