Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Were the 80s really the Golden Age of D&D?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 5012055" data-attributes="member: 59082"><p>Now that's interesting (does some quick research). Wikipedia has the comic ages as follows:</p><p></p><p><strong>COMIC BOOK AGES</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Golden Age: </strong>Late 30s to late 40s. "...the arrival of the comic book as a mainstream art form, and the defining of the medium's artistic vocabulary and creative conventions by its first generation of writers, artists, and editors." Think Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Captain America, etc.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Atomic Age: </strong>Mid-40s to mid-50s. Not a proper age as much as an interregnum, a lull in popularity following WWII.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Silver Age: </strong>Mid-50s to c. 1970. "A period of artistic advancement and commercial success." Wikipedia cites the arrival of the Flash in 1956 as the first new popular superhero since the Golden Age. This time also saw the debut of Marvel Comics, incl the X-Men, Avengers, Spiderman, etc.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Bronze Age: </strong>Early 70s to mid-80s. "...retained many of the conventions of the Silver Age...However darker plot elements and more mature storylines featuring real-world issues." Think the Phoenix Saga.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Modern Age: </strong>Mid-80s to present. "...characters generally became darker and more psychologically complex, creators became better-known and active in changing the industry, independent comics flourished, and larger publishing houses became more commercialized."</li> </ul><p>Can we apply the same basic criteria to RPG History? Maybe. You did it quite well, but I'll add a bit:</p><p></p><p><strong>RPG AGES</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Golden Age</strong>: 1970s. Do we begin with Braunstein, Chainmail, or OD&D? Hard to say, but the Golden Age would span most of the 70s and would be the only era that was truly dominated by one figure: E. Gary Gygax, the Babe Ruth of RPGs.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Silver Age: </strong>c. 1977 to late-80s. This would be the 1ed AD&D era, peaking in the early 80s and beginning to shift to a more "humanistic" element with Dragonlance in 1983 at the midpoint, which would in turn foreshadow 2ed AD&D. This also saw the development of other RPG systems, notably Runequest, Pendragon, Traveler, Rolemaster, MERP, etc, and the first glimmerings of the Indie RPG movement.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Bronze Age: </strong>c. 1990-2000. Three major trends united into a general period feel: the focus of AD&D on settings and the further focus on non-combat elements; the arrival of the World of Darkness with its story-based games; and the explosion of the Indie RPG market, not as an attempt to compete financially with D&D (and WoD) but with the craft of design and "RPGs as art" as central.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Iron Age: </strong>2000+. The OGL, baby. Or rather, the OGL coupled with the proliferation of DIY publishing and PDFs.</li> </ul><p>I call the most reason age that of "iron" because the word "modern" doesn't really seem to suit; actually, <em>postmodern </em>would be more appropriate, even post-postmodern as the 90s were more postmodern in vibe, especially with the very pomo WoD games.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mercurius, post: 5012055, member: 59082"] Now that's interesting (does some quick research). Wikipedia has the comic ages as follows: [B]COMIC BOOK AGES [/B] [LIST] [*][B]Golden Age: [/B]Late 30s to late 40s. "...the arrival of the comic book as a mainstream art form, and the defining of the medium's artistic vocabulary and creative conventions by its first generation of writers, artists, and editors." Think Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Captain America, etc. [*][B]Atomic Age: [/B]Mid-40s to mid-50s. Not a proper age as much as an interregnum, a lull in popularity following WWII. [*][B]Silver Age: [/B]Mid-50s to c. 1970. "A period of artistic advancement and commercial success." Wikipedia cites the arrival of the Flash in 1956 as the first new popular superhero since the Golden Age. This time also saw the debut of Marvel Comics, incl the X-Men, Avengers, Spiderman, etc. [*][B]Bronze Age: [/B]Early 70s to mid-80s. "...retained many of the conventions of the Silver Age...However darker plot elements and more mature storylines featuring real-world issues." Think the Phoenix Saga. [*][B]Modern Age: [/B]Mid-80s to present. "...characters generally became darker and more psychologically complex, creators became better-known and active in changing the industry, independent comics flourished, and larger publishing houses became more commercialized." [/LIST] Can we apply the same basic criteria to RPG History? Maybe. You did it quite well, but I'll add a bit: [B]RPG AGES [/B] [LIST] [*][B]Golden Age[/B]: 1970s. Do we begin with Braunstein, Chainmail, or OD&D? Hard to say, but the Golden Age would span most of the 70s and would be the only era that was truly dominated by one figure: E. Gary Gygax, the Babe Ruth of RPGs. [*][B]Silver Age: [/B]c. 1977 to late-80s. This would be the 1ed AD&D era, peaking in the early 80s and beginning to shift to a more "humanistic" element with Dragonlance in 1983 at the midpoint, which would in turn foreshadow 2ed AD&D. This also saw the development of other RPG systems, notably Runequest, Pendragon, Traveler, Rolemaster, MERP, etc, and the first glimmerings of the Indie RPG movement. [*][B]Bronze Age: [/B]c. 1990-2000. Three major trends united into a general period feel: the focus of AD&D on settings and the further focus on non-combat elements; the arrival of the World of Darkness with its story-based games; and the explosion of the Indie RPG market, not as an attempt to compete financially with D&D (and WoD) but with the craft of design and "RPGs as art" as central. [*][B]Iron Age: [/B]2000+. The OGL, baby. Or rather, the OGL coupled with the proliferation of DIY publishing and PDFs. [/LIST] I call the most reason age that of "iron" because the word "modern" doesn't really seem to suit; actually, [I]postmodern [/I]would be more appropriate, even post-postmodern as the 90s were more postmodern in vibe, especially with the very pomo WoD games. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Were the 80s really the Golden Age of D&D?
Top