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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gez" data-source="post: 2192813" data-attributes="member: 1328">He was casting light of Venya -- a sor/wiz 3 spell that creates two rays, each can heal 3d6 hp on a living, non-evil creature; deal 3d6 points of damage to an evil outsider or a undead, or deal 1d6 points of damage to a creature.Nah. The elves who have seen the light of Valinor would be more powerful, but that's not because they're elves, but because they have seen the light of Valinor. Then, because they have seen the light of Valinor they would be, in D&D terms, something like celestial, paragon elves.Elves who haven't seen the light of Valinor aren't especially wise or powerful or super-duper-extra-kewl-munchkins. Look at Legolas -- he's a good archer (what with being a high level ranger/deepwood sniper), but that's all.Anything that has seen the light of Valinor is especially powerful. Heck, there's a dog somewhere in the Silmarillion, who, just because he has seen the light of Valinor (and certainly not because he was an elf, he was a dog, you know, four-legged canine, Int 2, who barks all the time without reason and always tries to eat the postman -- yeah, that kind of dog) -- where was I? Yeah, a dog that, just because he had seen the light of Valinor, was able to take on Sauron's biggest, nastiest werewolf.Sorry, it's one of my pet peeves. People always call up Tolkien as an excuse to justify superman-type visions of elves, when the true Tolkien elves, those of the black forest, are far from that. Re-read the Hobbit to see what elves that haven't seen the light of Valinor are: easily-tricked drunkards.</blockquote>

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