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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gez" data-source="post: 2196518" data-attributes="member: 1328">I was obviously joking with that suggestion. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> And yes, sunbeam would be more appropriate.Those are perks. They're all nifty and sweet, but that's the kind of "ordinary magic" that Tolkien gave to most everyone. So, D&D elves have a +2 racial bonus to spot checks, with a maxed-out Spot rank, an OK Wisdom, and maybe the Alertness feat, you could have a D&D Legolas able to see much much further than any of the other members of the Fellowship -- who haven't maxed out their Spot skill not benefit from a racial bonus. If you changed the elven trait of automatically detecting secret doors  and maybe the resistance to enchantment and immunity to sleep spells in exchange for a  (generalized) woodland stride, you would have a Legolas-compatible D&D elf.Yes, Tolkien gave them a few fey powers -- just like he says the hobbits were extraordinarily stealthy. That's what he called "ordinary magic".</blockquote>