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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Goonalan" data-source="post: 9568419" data-attributes="member: 16069">How well can Crusher crush?Stuck on a rules question in WFRP, can anyone here help me out pretty please.For Talents in the book (page 132) it says-If you can take a Talent multiple times, it may have a special rule for what this means written into its description. Further, it may have an associated Skill marked under ‘Tests’ (see Talent Format): if so, for each time you have the Talent, you gain +1 SL on any successful use of a Skill tied to the Talent.And furthermore in the Talent Format (same page) it says-Tests: If the talent is tied to one or more tests your character can make, the affected tests are listed here. talents tied to a test come with an extra rule: For each time you have taken the talent, you gain +1 sl on any successful use of the skill tied to the talent.And I'm asking about Crusher Braugen here.He has Reversal (1). Which says-Reversal Max: Weapon Skill Bonus Tests: Melee when defending You are used to desperate combats, able to turn even the direst circumstances to your Advantage. If you win an Opposed Melee Test, instead of gaining +1 Advantage, you may take all your opponent’s Current Advantage. If you do this, you do not cause any Damage, even if it is your Turn in the Round.So, questions-1) Can Crusher only use Reversal when he is defending in Melee, i.e. not when he is attacking. If so why the last sentence in the power, because surely on his turn Crusher will be attacking, and from the text above it appears Crusher can use the Talent on his turn.2) Does Crusher gain an extra +1 sl if he successfully makes a melee test in defence- because as stated above- "For each time you have taken the talent, you gain +1 sl on any successful use of the skill tied to the talent." I think so.But here's the thing-The second Talent I'm confused about, particularly in conjunction with the first.Crusher has Dirty Fighting (2). Which says-Dirty Fighting Max: Weapon Skill Bonus Tests: Melee (Brawling) You have been taught all the dirty tricks of unarmed combat. You may choose to cause an extra +1 Damage for each level in Dirty Fighting with any successful Melee (Brawling) hit.Which conjures the following questions-3) If Crusher makes a successful Melee (Brawling) test by +3 sl, he then automatically adds another +2 sl to make +5 sl. The extra two coming from having the Talent Dirty Fighting (2), as above. Crusher then compares his 5 sl with his opponent to see who has won. That's right isn't it?4) And so continuing on with the example above, Crusher beats his opponent by +3 sl, which is added to the damage- weapon +5 (his fists) = 8 damage plus 2 more for Dirty Fighting (2) = 10 damage (-Toughness & armour). Is that right? Because it seems like Dirty Fighting just got counted twice.Also-5) If Crusher is defending with Melee (Brawling) as per Reversal (but not attempting to use Reversal)- and he makes a successful check does he get an extra +1 sl for having Reversal (1) plus another +2 sl for having Dirty Fighting (2). Because if he does then Crusher is never going to use any other weapon than his fists ever again.I'm probs missing something very simple, but... I'm missing it atm.Any help gratefully received.Cheers goonalan.</blockquote>

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