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[WFRP] Hogshead Closes Doors
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<blockquote data-quote="Vrylakos" data-source="post: 492128" data-attributes="member: 436"><p>I followed the many RPG.net Nobilis reviews, and the many many many threads that followed.</p><p></p><p>Here's a few, but not all:</p><p><a href="http://www.rpg.net/news+reviews/reviews/rev_6421.html" target="_blank">http://www.rpg.net/news+reviews/reviews/rev_6421.html</a></p><p>(In which James Wallis flips out a bit, in the last thread at the bottom of the Review: in this thread http://trio.rpg.net/rf08/read.php?f=461&i=1&t=1[url]) [url]http://www.rpg.net/news+reviews/reviews/rev_6449.html</p><p><a href="http://www.rpg.net/news+reviews/reviews/rev_6455.html" target="_blank">http://www.rpg.net/news+reviews/reviews/rev_6455.html</a></p><p><a href="http://www.rpg.net/news+reviews/reviews/rev_6989.html" target="_blank">http://www.rpg.net/news+reviews/reviews/rev_6989.html</a></p><p></p><p>IMS, he "lashed out" at one person inappropriately. He never truly apologized in public, to his discredit, but he did later admit he flipped out a bit.</p><p></p><p>Given the circumstances and a few malicious posters on RPG.net, I can understand him getting upset. I mean, Jesus, one guy posted over 600 posts flaming a game he had never even read. If you follow the threads, you'll see that there was no anti-d20 bashing going on. Wallis plays D&D... or at least he used to, from what I've heard. The basic idea he was trying to get across was that Hogshead wanted to make a game that was the 'finely crafted German watch' of RPGs - Nobilis. If you just want to tell the time, there are cheaper watches out there. If you appreciate all those cogs, the brass, the little watchchain, the 'fine German craftsmanship' then take a look at Nobilis. It's a big game, not really given to immediate out of the box play; there's lots of info to absorb.</p><p></p><p>However, if you'd still like to serve on the Baseless And Petty d20 Revenge Squad, by all means look for those Jolly Ranchers. I'm sure the world will be improved by your efforts. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Vrylakos</p><p>PS: For those interested, here's the bit that James Wallis caught flack for:</p><p></p><p>Thorin Stoutfoot says:</p><p></p><p></p><p>Later Thorin adds:</p><p></p><p></p><p>James Wallis replies:</p><p></p><p></p><p>Inappropriate? Perhaps. </p><p></p><p>Thorin makes his judgments on what's good, James makes a counterstatement but -GASP- ventures to stereotype Thorin based on his prior posts. Worth crucifying with the Jolly Rancher d20? No, in my opinion. Wick was far far worse in his thinly veiled contempt for d20. James shows no contempt, though perhaps gets caught up in his hyperbole and pride over the game...</p><p></p><p>Jeez, I've probably opened up a can of worms here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vrylakos, post: 492128, member: 436"] I followed the many RPG.net Nobilis reviews, and the many many many threads that followed. Here's a few, but not all: [url]http://www.rpg.net/news+reviews/reviews/rev_6421.html[/url] (In which James Wallis flips out a bit, in the last thread at the bottom of the Review: in this thread [url]http://trio.rpg.net/rf08/read.php?f=461&i=1&t=1[url]) [url]http://www.rpg.net/news+reviews/reviews/rev_6449.html[/url] [url]http://www.rpg.net/news+reviews/reviews/rev_6455.html[/url] [url]http://www.rpg.net/news+reviews/reviews/rev_6989.html[/url] IMS, he "lashed out" at one person inappropriately. He never truly apologized in public, to his discredit, but he did later admit he flipped out a bit. Given the circumstances and a few malicious posters on RPG.net, I can understand him getting upset. I mean, Jesus, one guy posted over 600 posts flaming a game he had never even read. If you follow the threads, you'll see that there was no anti-d20 bashing going on. Wallis plays D&D... or at least he used to, from what I've heard. The basic idea he was trying to get across was that Hogshead wanted to make a game that was the 'finely crafted German watch' of RPGs - Nobilis. If you just want to tell the time, there are cheaper watches out there. If you appreciate all those cogs, the brass, the little watchchain, the 'fine German craftsmanship' then take a look at Nobilis. It's a big game, not really given to immediate out of the box play; there's lots of info to absorb. However, if you'd still like to serve on the Baseless And Petty d20 Revenge Squad, by all means look for those Jolly Ranchers. I'm sure the world will be improved by your efforts. ;) Vrylakos PS: For those interested, here's the bit that James Wallis caught flack for: Thorin Stoutfoot says: Later Thorin adds: James Wallis replies: Inappropriate? Perhaps. Thorin makes his judgments on what's good, James makes a counterstatement but -GASP- ventures to stereotype Thorin based on his prior posts. Worth crucifying with the Jolly Rancher d20? No, in my opinion. Wick was far far worse in his thinly veiled contempt for d20. James shows no contempt, though perhaps gets caught up in his hyperbole and pride over the game... Jeez, I've probably opened up a can of worms here. [/QUOTE]
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