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<blockquote data-quote="Cap'n Kobold" data-source="post: 7986383" data-attributes="member: 6802951"><p>It might be some of my posts you were responding to, not DrBW's. I realised that it might have been a little confusing because I was talking about historical longswords, which were almost exclusively two-handed weapons, not D&D longswords which cover one-handed weapons as well. It is the two-handed grip that allows the user to apply their strength to the movement of the blade better, and hence makes it more suitable for a weaker person. - Compare to the rapier where a similar-length blade is controlled by fingers, wrist and forearm.</p><p>You're perfectly correct that when looking at weapons like viking and some arming swords used in one-hand, the strength requirements would be closer.</p><p></p><p> I flat-out removed the finesse requirement for sneak attack. It seemed the obvious way to allow rogues to sneak attack with weapons like the longsword, which they were specifically given proficiency in.</p><p>I've not seen any issues with this houserule yet. A rogue using a longsword two-handed is probably a net damage loss compare to making an off-hand attack for an extra chance at sneak attack. </p><p>I've not found it makes Strength pointless either: currently Str-based rogues are still required to use finesse weapons, even though they're still using Str to attack with them. With the houserule, I've seen more strength-based rogues since they can use more iconic weapons.</p><p>(I also gave bows and slings the finesse trait, which also reduces dex supremacy, and may also have something to o with this.)</p><p></p><p>(Also allows any kensai rogue to use their weapons with sneak attack whatever they are. - Even gives them a further advantage, since they can still use dex for any sneak attack due to their magical nature.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cap'n Kobold, post: 7986383, member: 6802951"] It might be some of my posts you were responding to, not DrBW's. I realised that it might have been a little confusing because I was talking about historical longswords, which were almost exclusively two-handed weapons, not D&D longswords which cover one-handed weapons as well. It is the two-handed grip that allows the user to apply their strength to the movement of the blade better, and hence makes it more suitable for a weaker person. - Compare to the rapier where a similar-length blade is controlled by fingers, wrist and forearm. You're perfectly correct that when looking at weapons like viking and some arming swords used in one-hand, the strength requirements would be closer. I flat-out removed the finesse requirement for sneak attack. It seemed the obvious way to allow rogues to sneak attack with weapons like the longsword, which they were specifically given proficiency in. I've not seen any issues with this houserule yet. A rogue using a longsword two-handed is probably a net damage loss compare to making an off-hand attack for an extra chance at sneak attack. I've not found it makes Strength pointless either: currently Str-based rogues are still required to use finesse weapons, even though they're still using Str to attack with them. With the houserule, I've seen more strength-based rogues since they can use more iconic weapons. (I also gave bows and slings the finesse trait, which also reduces dex supremacy, and may also have something to o with this.) (Also allows any kensai rogue to use their weapons with sneak attack whatever they are. - Even gives them a further advantage, since they can still use dex for any sneak attack due to their magical nature.) [/QUOTE]
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