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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8559616" data-attributes="member: 22779">Oh, don't get me wrong.  I have zero problem with a Psion as a base class.  That's fine.  I don't think psions should be a subclass of existing classes.  That won't make anyone happy.But, you don't need an entirely incompatible magic system to get a new class.  The Artificer proves that.  IOW, we can have both a new psion base class AND a new class that uses the existing spell mechanics.  Since there's virtually nothing a psion is doing that is original - most psionic effects are simply existing spells with a bit of a twist - I have no idea why you'd need a completely new casting system just to add psionics to the game.And, let's not forget, there's more to adding psionics than simply the class as well.  Psionics adds a LOT on the DM's side of the screen as well - new magic items, new monsters, changes and alterations to existing monsters, so on and so forth.  Insisting that psionics MUST NOT use the existing spell system is ensuring that D&D will never have a psionic system.</blockquote>