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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 8588173" data-attributes="member: 63508">Herer's the thingThe magic =/= psionics thing really doesn't matter.The problem isAnimate ObjectsBigby's HandRary's Telepathic BondDominate PersonDreamSeemingScryingTelekinesisTelepathyWall of ForceAre all traditional D&D and other Media Psionic effects. However they are all 5th level. Meaning you have to be 9th level to get it and you can't do it often until very high level.In D&D, Arcane and Divine power sources get Psionincs at Mid-High level whereas Psionic power source gets Psioincs are Very Low level.The balancing point was the Psioincs Users got weaker versions at low level and used points to match or exceed the Arcane version by Mid level.So why don't we make low level versions of the these spells?Because 5e allows spellcasters to snag 1st and now 2nd level spells with feats and allows spellcasters to stack slots, cantrips power, and prepared spells. If you make the effects 1st level spells, you are effectively giving them to wizards, clerics, and every other caster for little cost. This thus nueters the point of having psioinic classes.</blockquote>