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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 8596363" data-attributes="member: 58172">Yes and no.The 1e Cleric can cast spells without gods. The 1e core rules are conflictive, but resolve in a way equivalent to the 5e formulation of a &quot;cosmic power&quot;.For example, the 1e Players Handbook says, &quot;Clerical spells, including the druidic, are bestowed by the gods, ...&quot; But we know from elsewhere that Druids dont have gods. &quot;They hold trees, the sun and moon, as deities.&quot; In other words, animism. In context, the term &quot;gods&quot; doesnt mean gods. Term &quot;gods&quot; is being used improperly in a general sense as if any kind of sacred concept, including normal trees.In context, the 1e Cleric class generally casts divine spells by means of any sacred concept of any culture.The 5e formula in Xanathars communicates this 1e tradition best. A Cleric casts spells by means of any &quot;cosmic force, such as life or death, or a philosophy, or a concept such as love, peace, or one of the nine alignments&quot;. Any sacred concept, symbol, worldview, or ethical behavior can power divine magic.In other words, the divine power source is linguistic.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 8596363, member: 58172"] Yes and no. The 1e Cleric can cast spells without gods. The 1e core rules are conflictive, but resolve in a way equivalent to the 5e formulation of a "cosmic power". For example, the 1e Players Handbook says, "Clerical spells, including the druidic, are bestowed by the gods, ..." But we know from elsewhere that Druids dont have gods. "They hold trees, the sun and moon, as deities." In other words, animism. In context, the term "gods" doesnt mean gods. Term "gods" is being used improperly in a general sense as if any kind of sacred concept, including normal trees. In context, the 1e Cleric class generally casts divine spells by means of any sacred concept of any culture. The 5e formula in Xanathars communicates this 1e tradition best. A Cleric casts spells by means of any "cosmic force, such as life or death, or a philosophy, or a concept such as love, peace, or one of the nine alignments". Any sacred concept, symbol, worldview, or ethical behavior can power divine magic. In other words, the divine power source is linguistic. [/QUOTE]

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