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<blockquote data-quote="Vaxalon" data-source="post: 258074" data-attributes="member: 789">I saw the same show, you've pretty much got it.&quot;Spontaneous&quot; human combustion has been explained, as far as I am concerned.&nbsp; It's hardly spontaneous... it takes a very long time, and a wick (clothes usually suffice).As for the claims that there is a difference between &quot;hoax&quot; and &quot;genuine&quot; crop circles, it's a false distinction... It's the difference between &quot; beginner&quot; and &quot;expert&quot; crop circles.You avoid pole-holes by having enough people to have someone hold it up rather than jam it into the ground.You avoid footprints by walking on the tire spaces.&nbsp; Do you see those lines that run through the image, mostly vertical, but slanted a bit to the upper left and lower right?&nbsp; Those are the tire spaces.&nbsp; They're where the tires of the very heavy equipment that's used to plow, plant, tend, and harvest the crop go.&nbsp; They tend to be very hard packed, and if the hoaxers are skilled, they can avoid stepping off of those paths except when they're actually flattening the grain.If the hoaxers choose the time and place carefully, the stems WILL bend rather than break, because the stalks are green when an expert hoaxer makes a crop circle.&nbsp; It's usually a day after a good solid rain.&nbsp; This ensures that the plants are supple rather than brittle.&nbsp; This will also allow the &quot;braiding&quot; phenomenon from time to time, as the still-living, still-growing plants will begin to right themselves, and attempt to grow back towards the light.&nbsp; This has the effect of introducing a little bit of twist to their growth, because plants grow at the tips, not on the shaft.&nbsp; Watch a time-lapse of a plant growing and you'll see it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Vaxalon, post: 258074, member: 789"] I saw the same show, you've pretty much got it. "Spontaneous" human combustion has been explained, as far as I am concerned. It's hardly spontaneous... it takes a very long time, and a wick (clothes usually suffice). As for the claims that there is a difference between "hoax" and "genuine" crop circles, it's a false distinction... It's the difference between " beginner" and "expert" crop circles. You avoid pole-holes by having enough people to have someone hold it up rather than jam it into the ground. You avoid footprints by walking on the tire spaces. Do you see those lines that run through the image, mostly vertical, but slanted a bit to the upper left and lower right? Those are the tire spaces. They're where the tires of the very heavy equipment that's used to plow, plant, tend, and harvest the crop go. They tend to be very hard packed, and if the hoaxers are skilled, they can avoid stepping off of those paths except when they're actually flattening the grain. If the hoaxers choose the time and place carefully, the stems WILL bend rather than break, because the stalks are green when an expert hoaxer makes a crop circle. It's usually a day after a good solid rain. This ensures that the plants are supple rather than brittle. This will also allow the "braiding" phenomenon from time to time, as the still-living, still-growing plants will begin to right themselves, and attempt to grow back towards the light. This has the effect of introducing a little bit of twist to their growth, because plants grow at the tips, not on the shaft. Watch a time-lapse of a plant growing and you'll see it. [/QUOTE]

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