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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 6264057" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>It's a 7th level spell. I doubt we will get to the level where it can be used (13) for years, and once we do, it will be the mage's one and only 7th level spell slot. No really a concern for me.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So you're in the military, and the enemy just entered your base, killed a bunch of your friends, and is now holding up to rest so they can kill the rest of you. And you what, just sit there?</p><p></p><p>No, you react to the threat.</p><p></p><p>If a wall just appeared out of nowhere in your house, you'd notice, and start poking at it right away, with all your friends preparing to attack. </p><p></p><p>And, I think that is usually a concentration spell, so they won't be resting if they do. In fact, I think ALL illusions that can create a wall are concentration...so not even possible given it's the mage who needs to rest the most.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Creatures reacting logically to things trying to destroy them does not ruin the story or the experience, it enhances it. You've yet to demonstrate anything that would be harmful to the story or experience.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't do that, I've mentioned previously I think this is a mistaken interpretation of what wandering monsters are, and it's not a concern.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They players have just as much trouble getting out as something else has getting in. If they players can just break it down, so can a creature. Again, if a wall appeared in your house, wouldn't you react to it? Particularly if you think there is a known killer who wants you dead behind that wall?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You've yet to show me anything unrealistic. You claim it, but you have not shown it. So far it's more realistic, which is a feature and not a bug. If you go into somethings lair, start killing intelligent creatures and then stop to rest, the remainder of the creatures there will react appropriately to gather together, send for help, flee, prepare an ambush, prepare traps, mass assault you, etc.. That's what intelligent creatures would logically do in response to such a threat that has suddenly paused in the midst of their lair.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 6264057, member: 2525"] It's a 7th level spell. I doubt we will get to the level where it can be used (13) for years, and once we do, it will be the mage's one and only 7th level spell slot. No really a concern for me. So you're in the military, and the enemy just entered your base, killed a bunch of your friends, and is now holding up to rest so they can kill the rest of you. And you what, just sit there? No, you react to the threat. If a wall just appeared out of nowhere in your house, you'd notice, and start poking at it right away, with all your friends preparing to attack. And, I think that is usually a concentration spell, so they won't be resting if they do. In fact, I think ALL illusions that can create a wall are concentration...so not even possible given it's the mage who needs to rest the most. Creatures reacting logically to things trying to destroy them does not ruin the story or the experience, it enhances it. You've yet to demonstrate anything that would be harmful to the story or experience. I don't do that, I've mentioned previously I think this is a mistaken interpretation of what wandering monsters are, and it's not a concern. They players have just as much trouble getting out as something else has getting in. If they players can just break it down, so can a creature. Again, if a wall appeared in your house, wouldn't you react to it? Particularly if you think there is a known killer who wants you dead behind that wall? You've yet to show me anything unrealistic. You claim it, but you have not shown it. So far it's more realistic, which is a feature and not a bug. If you go into somethings lair, start killing intelligent creatures and then stop to rest, the remainder of the creatures there will react appropriately to gather together, send for help, flee, prepare an ambush, prepare traps, mass assault you, etc.. That's what intelligent creatures would logically do in response to such a threat that has suddenly paused in the midst of their lair. [/QUOTE]
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