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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DMZ2112" data-source="post: 6264878" data-attributes="member: 78752">Well, if this thread is about the role of the dungeon master in any edition of the game, that's fine, but it is not the impression you gave.I think we're kind of pussyfooting around the real issue here, with all our talk of player agency and potentially hostile dungeon envionrments, so let me cut straight to the chase:IF YOU LET YOUR PCS NOVA EVERY ENCOUNTER YOU ARE A TERRIBLE DUNGEON MASTER.Does that about cover it?  The potential for this sort of behavior has existed in every version of D&D, and it has been particularly obvious in digital versions.  It's how I played the old SSI gold box D&D video games.  Fight, rest.  Fight, rest.  Fight, rest.  Interrupted?  Restore save game.  But if there had been a dungeon master at the "table," so to speak, that would have/should have been /impossible/, because that is literally the very /definition/ of dungeon mastery.  You have a dungeon.  You are its master.  Act like it.I'm hear you saying that the mismanaged five-minute workday benefits casters in editions other than D&D4, and that is the reason why it is bad.  I'm not sure if you're saying that it is therefore not bad in D&D4, or if you are saying that it is bad, only in a different way.For my part, it is always bad, and favoring individual characters over others is in no way the biggest part of the problem.  But the fact remains: the five-minute workday has always been a thing, it is why you have a dungeon master in the first place, and it doesn't need to be written out of the game, because in a properly managed campaign it is a total non-issue.It's true that most published dungeons don't provide instructions on handling encounters spilling into one another, but in my experience that quickly becomes a rabbit hole -- when do you stop?  The author of the dungeon can't see what's going on at the table, and can't adapt for conditions.Again, I think adjudicating this sort of thing is  a central part of the dungeon master's responsibility in any edition, and is in no way unique to D&D5.Also, from the perspective of the devil's advocate, you are ignoring the fact that encounters in a good dungeon are mapped for a reason -- meaning that the monsters in a given room have a purpose in being there.  The equation is not as simple as "hear swordplay, run to investigate" -- any soldier who has ever been on guard duty will tell you that's a really good way to win the battle and lose the fort.And have solid-core hardwood doors, which are essentially soundproof.  I mean, as long as we're generalizing.It's /understood/, Lokiare.  Again, dungeon mastery.</blockquote>

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