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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cadfan" data-source="post: 3978308" data-attributes="member: 40961">Oh yeah, I also want a strong skirmish based talent tree.My reasons are unusual though.The 3e Scout is the best shuriken-throwing-ninja class possible in 3e.  Its a class where you make one ranged attack per round, and you gain bonus damage.  Going from a shortbow to a shuriken costs one feat, loses you two points of damage, but gains you quickdraw.  If your DM will permit you to gain Shuriken Proficiency for free, its worth it.I want to keep that option available on 4e.Like I said, my reasoning is a bit idiosyncratic.</blockquote>