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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mercule" data-source="post: 5890197" data-attributes="member: 5100">Exactly. I have no idea why they renamed elves and then called something else an elf. Get rid of that dorky, woodsy Grugach and give me a real, arcanist high elf.I'm not entirely kidding. I don't understand how the wood elf became the standard in 4e. D&D elves have generally favored Celeborn, Galadriel, and Elrond more than Legolas.That said, I have a player who is definitely in the Legolas (and maybe even ElfQuest) camp. Not my preference, but she has fun with it. The elf/eladrin split is actually a pretty reasonable solution for the two views of elf. I might have kept the elf name for the arcanists, but I'll live. I'm indifferent to the teleporting and feywild origins, but the rest of the "eladrin" vibe is more elven to me than the 4e "elf". If I only get to keep one, I say screw the ranger elf and give me my aloof elves who are the masters of magical secrets humans cannot fathom.</blockquote>