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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 6019797" data-attributes="member: 63508">Here is my little comments on the rogue how it is and could be represented in an edition.I've noticed something about rogue discussion here ans other places Whether it is on rogues getting Thieves Cant. Or a rogue's combat skill is. Or much damage Sneak Attack should do. Or how  they should get sneak attack. Or how focused, reliable, or powerful their skills are.It seem that there are different camps on what the rogue is. What DDN builds the rogue as and how important or entwined each aspect of the class  is will determined both how it is seen and what the aspects other classes might need.I see 4 main views.The rogue is the expert. The rogue is the most focused on skills and is just better at them instead of training in combat or magic, the rogue trains in his or her preferred skills. Sneak attack is secondary, as an near equalized made to make up for combat weakness.The rogue is a trickster. The rogue doesn't use the proper or common ways to do things and gets what he wants. He steals instead of asking, He lies instead of telling truths. He sneaks instead of waiting for permission. He climbs walls instead of using the door. He back stabs instead of front stabs.The rogue is a crook. The rogue is a being of the underworld. They lie, cheat, steal, sneak, burgle, and disarm. Good or evil, a rogue is a thief, thug, spy, or con man of some stripe.The rogue is a skirmisher. They are a light nimble warrior who uses his or her speed and mobility to gain their wishes. They have a few skills and talents picked up on their journey as they are natural sneaks, scouts, bullies, and thieves.All of theses ideas don't mess. A archeologist expert rogue can't be made easily from a rogue class that assumes the rogue is a dirty crook. A trickster rogue and a heavy hitting skirmisher rogue fight different.Either the rogue has to be heavily defined and other classes pick up the slack. Or the rogue has a bunch of alternative class features to fit a lot of styles.</blockquote>

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