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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Contrarian" data-source="post: 3803194" data-attributes="member: 40585">I talked to some TSR staffers about this case back when it was still in the courts.  Two things they said that I've never been able to verify:1) TSR's original case against Mayfair was complicated because old management had OKed Mayfair producing D&D-compatible stuff, much as it had OKed Judge's Guild. (I know Gygax says that Brian Blume was responsible for the JG deal.)  The crazy 1984 dealing was an effort by TSR to constrain what Mayfair could do with that permission, because the original contract wasn't very detailed. (1982, incidentally, is the year TSR cancelled Judge's Guild's license to print D&D supplements.)2) Although the court documents outline the official reasons for going after Mayfair, there might be some unofficial reasons.  The game designers I spoke to said TSR management was irritated by Mayfairs Witches supplement and Demons product line, because those products were focusing on subject matter that TSR management was removing from official products.  To a lesser extent, there was also some concern that Mayfair had started published 2E-compatible supplements (Witches has non-weapon proficiencies), which some TSR people didn't think Mayfair had permission to use.Again, that's all second-hand info, from game designers who probably didn't follow the case that closely. Take it with a grain of salt.</blockquote>