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<blockquote data-quote="eryndel" data-source="post: 6752211" data-attributes="member: 13120"><p>Actually, I don't see this description for your behavior as lawful at all. First, a job doesn't define your alignment. Being a priest, magistrate, watchman, brigand, or whatever doesn't define if where you fit on the alignment spectrum. Although there are certainly tendencies when you start looking at large populations (most bandits are non-lawful, most magistrates are lawful), an individual can be very different based on motivations.</p><p></p><p>Furthermore, you specifically say you knowingly and willfully are breaking the rules of the city watch. In my mind, this is almost, by definition, not lawful. </p><p></p><p>Lawful evil, in my mind, are for those individuals who are still bound by, and believes in, a formal code defined by their society (not an individual code of ethics), but whose goals and actions are inimical to the welfare of the masses. This character is flaunting those rules of society, so it doesn't appear to me (in the description provided) that the rules of the society are particularly important to you. That alone tends to have me think your character isn't lawful.</p><p></p><p>However, we're missing something important here in order to accurately gauge your alignment, and that's <em>why</em> you do what you do. Are you liberating these ill-gotten gains contrary to the rules of your position, to provide for the down-trodden? In that case, you're definitely not LG, but more likely NG or CG. Are you doing this to pad your own purse... you're probably more neutral to evil. Are you catching the bad guys to clean up the streets and protect those victimized by criminal actions? You're probably more on the good side of things. Are you in the watch to protect yourself when you "accidentally" get too carried away in "enforcing the law"? Well, you're probably not a good guy.</p><p></p><p>However, for me, lawful really implies a fundamental belief in the validity of the rules of society. If you casually dismiss the rules when they are inconvenient... that's not lawful.</p><p></p><p>In the end, though... since I'm clearly in the minority in that opinion, I think this indicates there's a wide variety of opinion on what constitutes the various alignments. It's why I don't particularly use it in my games anymore.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eryndel, post: 6752211, member: 13120"] Actually, I don't see this description for your behavior as lawful at all. First, a job doesn't define your alignment. Being a priest, magistrate, watchman, brigand, or whatever doesn't define if where you fit on the alignment spectrum. Although there are certainly tendencies when you start looking at large populations (most bandits are non-lawful, most magistrates are lawful), an individual can be very different based on motivations. Furthermore, you specifically say you knowingly and willfully are breaking the rules of the city watch. In my mind, this is almost, by definition, not lawful. Lawful evil, in my mind, are for those individuals who are still bound by, and believes in, a formal code defined by their society (not an individual code of ethics), but whose goals and actions are inimical to the welfare of the masses. This character is flaunting those rules of society, so it doesn't appear to me (in the description provided) that the rules of the society are particularly important to you. That alone tends to have me think your character isn't lawful. However, we're missing something important here in order to accurately gauge your alignment, and that's [I]why[/I] you do what you do. Are you liberating these ill-gotten gains contrary to the rules of your position, to provide for the down-trodden? In that case, you're definitely not LG, but more likely NG or CG. Are you doing this to pad your own purse... you're probably more neutral to evil. Are you catching the bad guys to clean up the streets and protect those victimized by criminal actions? You're probably more on the good side of things. Are you in the watch to protect yourself when you "accidentally" get too carried away in "enforcing the law"? Well, you're probably not a good guy. However, for me, lawful really implies a fundamental belief in the validity of the rules of society. If you casually dismiss the rules when they are inconvenient... that's not lawful. In the end, though... since I'm clearly in the minority in that opinion, I think this indicates there's a wide variety of opinion on what constitutes the various alignments. It's why I don't particularly use it in my games anymore. [/QUOTE]
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