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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6752250" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>A puzzle. Ok. I'll take a crack at it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This information doesn't really help us, because a PC can be whatever alignment that they want.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is a serious question of motive here, but the implication of bringing someone to justice is lawful.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This now confuses your motivation. Are you actually bringing criminals to justice because you want to see justice served, or do you simply want to take stuff for yourself. Are you motivated to hunt murderers because it is exciting, and you enjoy the thrill of the hunt. Is justice even really a strong motivation for you? You do not once even mention the victims. To me this suggests you are a character who is self-deluded. You say to yourself that you care about justice, but you really are in it for yourself. The implications of being in it for yourself are Chaotic. The implications of being self-deluded, is that your character's wisdom is not exceptional and perhaps no more than average.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's important to note that a lawful person desires to but doesn't necessarily enjoy doing their duty. They do their duty because it is their duty. But we've already established that you have motivations other than doing your duty, and that that motivation isn't really to uphold the law - because you yourself are breaking it. You enjoy the thrill of the hunt. You enjoy enriching yourself with stolen property. I dare say you'd do these things anyway, but conveniently the government pays you to do it. These motivations to please self seem much stronger than your motivations to please the state. You may be personally loyal to other members of the watch as your comrades and friends, but you aren't actually loyal to the government out of a since of obligation. This again suggests you are more Chaotic than Lawful.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Not only are you a corrupt magistrate (a corrupt 'cop') but you are a thief and your day job involves killing people in order that you can take their stuff. You aren't merely self-centered, but rapacious and destructive. Your character is Evil. It just so happens, that your character is paid to indulge his psychopathy on the criminal population of the state, and that makes your character useful to the state and the state useful to you. But you don't appear to be motivated by any sort of idealism or sense of honor.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I've already established that your character is less interested in bringing criminals to justice than killing them and taking their stuff. So your job as a police officer upholding the law doesn't make you lawful, because you in fact don't do so out of respect for the law.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This question has an objective answer. Yes. How do we know? Because you probably aren't telling all your associates about the fact that you are appropriating stolen property for yourself. (Leaving aside the possibility that the entire watch is just as corrupt as you are.) You are definitely deceiving everyone. Indeed, deceit seems to be your one universal attribute. By day you go around using your shape-shifting to kill and deceive criminals, in order to kill them and take their stuff. Then you go back to your friends and the watch and deceive them about you being an upright citizen. You are possibly even deceiving yourself about your commitment to justice, with self-serving beliefs about your own heroism.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't really understand the question. You exhibit your Chaotic nature by being a self-serving corrupt member of the watch.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What you may believe about yourself may not be relevant here. Very few people like to believe themselves to be evil, but your theft appears to be actively harming persons and I don't see a lot of good aligned actions or motivations here. Where is the character's sense of mercy and compassion? Where is the character's acts of altruism or charity? You don't suggest anything about your character that is muddling the good/evil axis enough that we have to throw up our hands and assign 'Neutral' to that axis. Your lawful/chaos axis is rather muddy, but not so conflicted that we can't see a strong strand of deceit and self-interest woven through it suggesting Chaotic. Hence, you are a very typical evil person that believes that they are less evil than they actually are. Virtue tends to follow the Dunning-Krugar effect. Everyone but the very virtuous assume that they are above average. The very virtuous see their minor flaws and assume they are more wretched than they are. The immoral tend to be blind to even their big failings.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I would consider this character to be Chaotic Evil. You whole-heartedly enjoy killing and stealing, and you spend your life deceiving people - including possibly yourself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 6752250, member: 4937"] A puzzle. Ok. I'll take a crack at it. This information doesn't really help us, because a PC can be whatever alignment that they want. There is a serious question of motive here, but the implication of bringing someone to justice is lawful. This now confuses your motivation. Are you actually bringing criminals to justice because you want to see justice served, or do you simply want to take stuff for yourself. Are you motivated to hunt murderers because it is exciting, and you enjoy the thrill of the hunt. Is justice even really a strong motivation for you? You do not once even mention the victims. To me this suggests you are a character who is self-deluded. You say to yourself that you care about justice, but you really are in it for yourself. The implications of being in it for yourself are Chaotic. The implications of being self-deluded, is that your character's wisdom is not exceptional and perhaps no more than average. It's important to note that a lawful person desires to but doesn't necessarily enjoy doing their duty. They do their duty because it is their duty. But we've already established that you have motivations other than doing your duty, and that that motivation isn't really to uphold the law - because you yourself are breaking it. You enjoy the thrill of the hunt. You enjoy enriching yourself with stolen property. I dare say you'd do these things anyway, but conveniently the government pays you to do it. These motivations to please self seem much stronger than your motivations to please the state. You may be personally loyal to other members of the watch as your comrades and friends, but you aren't actually loyal to the government out of a since of obligation. This again suggests you are more Chaotic than Lawful. Not only are you a corrupt magistrate (a corrupt 'cop') but you are a thief and your day job involves killing people in order that you can take their stuff. You aren't merely self-centered, but rapacious and destructive. Your character is Evil. It just so happens, that your character is paid to indulge his psychopathy on the criminal population of the state, and that makes your character useful to the state and the state useful to you. But you don't appear to be motivated by any sort of idealism or sense of honor. I've already established that your character is less interested in bringing criminals to justice than killing them and taking their stuff. So your job as a police officer upholding the law doesn't make you lawful, because you in fact don't do so out of respect for the law. This question has an objective answer. Yes. How do we know? Because you probably aren't telling all your associates about the fact that you are appropriating stolen property for yourself. (Leaving aside the possibility that the entire watch is just as corrupt as you are.) You are definitely deceiving everyone. Indeed, deceit seems to be your one universal attribute. By day you go around using your shape-shifting to kill and deceive criminals, in order to kill them and take their stuff. Then you go back to your friends and the watch and deceive them about you being an upright citizen. You are possibly even deceiving yourself about your commitment to justice, with self-serving beliefs about your own heroism. I don't really understand the question. You exhibit your Chaotic nature by being a self-serving corrupt member of the watch. What you may believe about yourself may not be relevant here. Very few people like to believe themselves to be evil, but your theft appears to be actively harming persons and I don't see a lot of good aligned actions or motivations here. Where is the character's sense of mercy and compassion? Where is the character's acts of altruism or charity? You don't suggest anything about your character that is muddling the good/evil axis enough that we have to throw up our hands and assign 'Neutral' to that axis. Your lawful/chaos axis is rather muddy, but not so conflicted that we can't see a strong strand of deceit and self-interest woven through it suggesting Chaotic. Hence, you are a very typical evil person that believes that they are less evil than they actually are. Virtue tends to follow the Dunning-Krugar effect. Everyone but the very virtuous assume that they are above average. The very virtuous see their minor flaws and assume they are more wretched than they are. The immoral tend to be blind to even their big failings. I would consider this character to be Chaotic Evil. You whole-heartedly enjoy killing and stealing, and you spend your life deceiving people - including possibly yourself. [/QUOTE]
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