Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Million Dollar TTRPG Crowdfunders
Most Anticipated Tabletop RPGs Of The Year
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
ShortQuests -- Pocket Sized Adventures! An all-new collection of digest-sized D&D adventures designed for 1-2 game sessions.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
What Alignment am I?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6752266" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Of course it is. What it may not be is so depraved that we could assign to the person as a whole the title of evil. Stealing some M&Ms is a very minor evil. The harm you are causing is very small and mostly to yourself (because you are confusing your own sense of right and wrong). We wouldn't expect a petty shoplifter to be so depraved in all their thinking that we could now call them evil, but we wouldn't be surprised if these petty acts of evil were the grease to worse and worse things.</p><p></p><p>It's worth noting that there is a sliding scale of accountability here. A Wisdom 30 Solar is so perceptive and self-aware that he immediately discerns the full depravity of stealing the MM's. If the Wisdom 30 Solar decides to steal the MM's fully knowing how wrong it is, the Wisdom 30 Solar immediately plunges to Evil. He has the wisdom to fully discern the meaning and consequences of his actions. Where as the Wisdom 5 child doesn't really understand what they are doing and doesn't see the full wrongness of the action. They can persist in shoplifting for quite a while, and their own ignorance and lack of understanding will protect them from the harm that they do. And it's worth noting, that most legal systems take this idea into account. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure it is. And it's the sort of evil that is almost certain to lead to even worse acts of evil. Again, the person can be self-deluded here, but by the time we've graduated up to burglary and grand theft, the character has already demonstrated significant inability to distinguish between right and wrong and a definite disregard for the needs and feelings of others. The next stage of this is you burgle a house, the little old lady turns out to be home and tries to stop you, and in a panic you throw here to the ground and fracture her hips and/or skull. At this point, maybe - just maybe you think - "I've become a horrible person." Whether that makes you change your ways or not is another matter.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's the sort of argument people make to justify their evil. Again, the Dunning-Krugar effect is very instructive here. The more evil the person gets, the more they will compare themselves to persons who are clearly depraved and act as if this makes them above average. They don't compare themselves to the 90% of people who wouldn't burgle a home. There like, "Ok, I'm a hit man. But Tony deserved it. He knew the score. He should have never welched on Big Eddy. It's not like I'm Stalin or anything, killing random people. It's just business."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 6752266, member: 4937"] Of course it is. What it may not be is so depraved that we could assign to the person as a whole the title of evil. Stealing some M&Ms is a very minor evil. The harm you are causing is very small and mostly to yourself (because you are confusing your own sense of right and wrong). We wouldn't expect a petty shoplifter to be so depraved in all their thinking that we could now call them evil, but we wouldn't be surprised if these petty acts of evil were the grease to worse and worse things. It's worth noting that there is a sliding scale of accountability here. A Wisdom 30 Solar is so perceptive and self-aware that he immediately discerns the full depravity of stealing the MM's. If the Wisdom 30 Solar decides to steal the MM's fully knowing how wrong it is, the Wisdom 30 Solar immediately plunges to Evil. He has the wisdom to fully discern the meaning and consequences of his actions. Where as the Wisdom 5 child doesn't really understand what they are doing and doesn't see the full wrongness of the action. They can persist in shoplifting for quite a while, and their own ignorance and lack of understanding will protect them from the harm that they do. And it's worth noting, that most legal systems take this idea into account. Sure it is. And it's the sort of evil that is almost certain to lead to even worse acts of evil. Again, the person can be self-deluded here, but by the time we've graduated up to burglary and grand theft, the character has already demonstrated significant inability to distinguish between right and wrong and a definite disregard for the needs and feelings of others. The next stage of this is you burgle a house, the little old lady turns out to be home and tries to stop you, and in a panic you throw here to the ground and fracture her hips and/or skull. At this point, maybe - just maybe you think - "I've become a horrible person." Whether that makes you change your ways or not is another matter. That's the sort of argument people make to justify their evil. Again, the Dunning-Krugar effect is very instructive here. The more evil the person gets, the more they will compare themselves to persons who are clearly depraved and act as if this makes them above average. They don't compare themselves to the 90% of people who wouldn't burgle a home. There like, "Ok, I'm a hit man. But Tony deserved it. He knew the score. He should have never welched on Big Eddy. It's not like I'm Stalin or anything, killing random people. It's just business." [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
What Alignment am I?
Top