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<blockquote data-quote="DevoutlyApathetic" data-source="post: 3387321" data-attributes="member: 1093">You're ignoring all the things that he does when he's &quot;away&quot; from the gang.&nbsp; The season where he was in juvie we hear about all these kids he's helped and all the time he spends trying to get people back on track.&nbsp; Willing to eat a prison term so his friends would be safe?&nbsp; Refusing to run away from his crimes?&nbsp; Lem's the classic innocent tainted by his associations.With the Money Train taking money from that is no different from adventurers taking a monsters &quot;money&quot;, it's justified (to themselves, not in some objective sense) by the victim deserving the punishment.&nbsp; Regardless, he wasn't involved in the train because of a desire for personal profit (and IIRC he almost said no) but because of the welfare of his friends.You've got the guy who hits on the wife of a murder victim he's investigating as Good?&nbsp; He's prideful, selfish and cowardly in the majority of his dealings.&nbsp; About the only person on the show he seems to care about in a non-sexual manner is Wyms.&nbsp; He ended last season by following the relationship advice of a pimp.&nbsp; Definitely Not Good.&nbsp; NE, maybe LE.Dutch is the inverse of Lem, someone who believes he's good but can't resist the dark impulses from within himself.&nbsp; Lem thinks he's bad but only really becomes so when under external influence.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DevoutlyApathetic, post: 3387321, member: 1093"] You're ignoring all the things that he does when he's "away" from the gang. The season where he was in juvie we hear about all these kids he's helped and all the time he spends trying to get people back on track. Willing to eat a prison term so his friends would be safe? Refusing to run away from his crimes? Lem's the classic innocent tainted by his associations. With the Money Train taking money from that is no different from adventurers taking a monsters "money", it's justified (to themselves, not in some objective sense) by the victim deserving the punishment. Regardless, he wasn't involved in the train because of a desire for personal profit (and IIRC he almost said no) but because of the welfare of his friends. You've got the guy who hits on the wife of a murder victim he's investigating as Good? He's prideful, selfish and cowardly in the majority of his dealings. About the only person on the show he seems to care about in a non-sexual manner is Wyms. He ended last season by following the relationship advice of a [i]pimp[/i]. Definitely Not Good. NE, maybe LE. Dutch is the inverse of Lem, someone who believes he's good but can't resist the dark impulses from within himself. Lem thinks he's bad but only really becomes so when under external influence. [/QUOTE]

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