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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 4701663" data-attributes="member: 2067">It's a personal pet peeve of mine when people equate &quot;Lawful&quot; with &quot;Obeys the Law,&quot; so I'm here to kick you in the shins for that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />The following is, of course, given my understanding of alignment...Lawful is ordered, believing in patterns, systems, and codes. I don't think Rorshach is quite Lawful. It's a mistake to think that just because someone adheres to an abstract code that they're Lawful. Chaotic people adhere just as strongly to their own codes.I don't think Rorchach is quite Chaotic. It's a mistake to think that just because someone violates the laws flippantly that they're Chaotic. Lawful people will violate a petty legality to uphold a greater law easily.On the Law/Chaos axis, he's &quot;unaligned.&quot; He does what suits him. Sometimes he ties up the bad guys and puts them in jail, sometimes he beats their heads in with an axe. He does believe in a greater meaning, but it isn't Order, and it isn't Chaos...It's Good.I think that Good characters can be tremendous jerks, especially to those that oppose them. It's a mistake to think that you have to be nice to be good. Good people slay evil all the time, even without a proper trial, especially when the legal system wouldn't do justice. Rorchach is Neutral Good.He's a jerk. He's got no regard for order, but no love of freedom either. He's tremendously egotistical. Like all the Watchmen, he's a deeply flawed kind of Good. I think the Watchmen is a good case for the idea that Good characters can come into conflict. Everyone is trying to do the right thing, but what they think of as &quot;the right thing&quot; is in direct conflict. Everyone has the good of humanity in mind, and just differs about how to achieve it. Coming back from the movie, I was thinking about how most of my campaigns have that sort of ambiguity to them, and how much I like doing that -- nothing is untainted, and rational people can disagree on whether Good or Evil (as D&amp;D alignments) is the best way to achieve a given goal.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 4701663, member: 2067"] It's a personal pet peeve of mine when people equate "Lawful" with "Obeys the Law," so I'm here to kick you in the shins for that. ;) The following is, of course, given my understanding of alignment... Lawful is ordered, believing in patterns, systems, and codes. I don't think Rorshach is quite Lawful. It's a mistake to think that just because someone adheres to an abstract code that they're Lawful. Chaotic people adhere just as strongly to their own codes. I don't think Rorchach is quite Chaotic. It's a mistake to think that just because someone violates the laws flippantly that they're Chaotic. Lawful people will violate a petty legality to uphold a greater law easily. On the Law/Chaos axis, he's "unaligned." He does what suits him. Sometimes he ties up the bad guys and puts them in jail, sometimes he beats their heads in with an axe. He does believe in a greater meaning, but it isn't Order, and it isn't Chaos... It's Good. I think that Good characters can be tremendous jerks, especially to those that oppose them. It's a mistake to think that you have to be nice to be good. Good people slay evil all the time, even without a proper trial, especially when the legal system wouldn't do justice. Rorchach is Neutral Good. He's a jerk. He's got no regard for order, but no love of freedom either. He's tremendously egotistical. Like all the Watchmen, he's a deeply flawed kind of Good. I think the Watchmen is a good case for the idea that Good characters can come into conflict. Everyone is trying to do the right thing, but what they think of as "the right thing" is in direct conflict. Everyone has the good of humanity in mind, and just differs about how to achieve it. Coming back from the movie, I was thinking about how most of my campaigns have that sort of ambiguity to them, and how much I like doing that -- nothing is untainted, and rational people can disagree on whether Good or Evil (as D&D alignments) is the best way to achieve a given goal. [/QUOTE]

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