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What are HPs in 4E?
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<blockquote data-quote="ShockMeSane" data-source="post: 4175938" data-attributes="member: 64606"><p>Hit points are really no different in 4th edition than they ever were. I'm not going to go digging for the quote, but Gary Gygax himself said something along the lines that the reason a warhorse or some such thing has X hitpoints is an abstract, it does not mean it can take 7 slashes with a longsword to kill. </p><p></p><p>Now, I will be the first to admit its always been a bit of a poor model, because pretty much the best D&D can represent is cuts and scrapes until the final blow which is enough to incapacitate/kill you or an enemy. Even if you crit a 50 hp ogre for 38, which one would think might be a pretty significant wound in relation to its hp, in the scope of RAW you really arent allowed to have that be much more than a semi-deep slash to the chest or something, as a severed arm or leg or whatever is just not modeled.</p><p></p><p>I can certainly see people's issues with hps. Really though, the hp model is the same as every other edition, none of which successfully modeled anything other than scrapes/fatigue/luck and then one final killing/incapacitating blow. I think it was a sacred cow that they could have put down with this edition, but we'll see if 5th deals with it <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ShockMeSane, post: 4175938, member: 64606"] Hit points are really no different in 4th edition than they ever were. I'm not going to go digging for the quote, but Gary Gygax himself said something along the lines that the reason a warhorse or some such thing has X hitpoints is an abstract, it does not mean it can take 7 slashes with a longsword to kill. Now, I will be the first to admit its always been a bit of a poor model, because pretty much the best D&D can represent is cuts and scrapes until the final blow which is enough to incapacitate/kill you or an enemy. Even if you crit a 50 hp ogre for 38, which one would think might be a pretty significant wound in relation to its hp, in the scope of RAW you really arent allowed to have that be much more than a semi-deep slash to the chest or something, as a severed arm or leg or whatever is just not modeled. I can certainly see people's issues with hps. Really though, the hp model is the same as every other edition, none of which successfully modeled anything other than scrapes/fatigue/luck and then one final killing/incapacitating blow. I think it was a sacred cow that they could have put down with this edition, but we'll see if 5th deals with it ;) [/QUOTE]
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