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<blockquote data-quote="Baka no Hentai" data-source="post: 4154813" data-attributes="member: 62883">I'm not sure I understand where you are coming from. You do not believe that it is logical that a commoner might be trained well enough to hit someone with a club, but then be unable to take a sword wound without being completely out of the fight?If anything, that makes *more* logical sense than in 3E, where high level commoners could take any number of hits before going down.It all comes back to that &quot;threat of death&quot; and what kind of threshold each creature has for it. Any conscripted soldier can be trained to use his weapon and to defend himself with his shield, however when it comes to the instant where the enemies blade is swinging true, will they have the quick wit, reflexes, endurance, or pure luck to turn an otherwise killing blow?Most humans would not be able to. PCs, however, (and to some extent non-minion NPCs) are heroic... they represent the top echelon of people that have that certain something that helps them survive in a situation where anyone else would be cut down.Minions make up the majority of non-monstrous humanoids. They are the &quot;Glass Jaws&quot; of D&amp;D... sure they can land a punch or two, they can duck and weave a bit, but all it takes is one solid right hook to the head and they are down for the count.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Baka no Hentai, post: 4154813, member: 62883"] I'm not sure I understand where you are coming from. You do not believe that it is logical that a commoner might be trained well enough to hit someone with a club, but then be unable to take a sword wound without being completely out of the fight? If anything, that makes *more* logical sense than in 3E, where high level commoners could take any number of hits before going down. It all comes back to that "threat of death" and what kind of threshold each creature has for it. Any conscripted soldier can be trained to use his weapon and to defend himself with his shield, however when it comes to the instant where the enemies blade is swinging true, will they have the quick wit, reflexes, endurance, or pure luck to turn an otherwise killing blow? Most humans would not be able to. PCs, however, (and to some extent non-minion NPCs) are heroic... they represent the top echelon of people that have that certain something that helps them survive in a situation where anyone else would be cut down. Minions make up the majority of non-monstrous humanoids. They are the "Glass Jaws" of D&D... sure they can land a punch or two, they can duck and weave a bit, but all it takes is one solid right hook to the head and they are down for the count. [/QUOTE]

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