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What are the best 2nd level psionic powers?
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<blockquote data-quote="Ariel23" data-source="post: 2780848" data-attributes="member: 13884"><p>If you want to make others decisions for them, <em>why have a poll?</em> If you're so convinced its horrid, it should get zero votes, anyway...</p><p></p><p>Feat leech uses:</p><p>1) Build a <strong>Pyschic Warrior</strong> with Psionic Body and a lot of psionic feats (preferably Psionic Talent). With a good WIS, you can steal multiple feats at once, btw. <u>Two</u> Psionic Bodies and 5 psionic feats (total)= +20 HP, but it could be <em>much</em> worse than that, given a Psychic Warrior's bonus feats.</p><p>Who says that if you have two instances of Psionic Body that you don't gain HP for <u>both</u> of them? <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious :]" data-shortname=":]" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p>2) Build a Thrallherd. Even a fairly modest one: </p><p><strong>Wilder 5/Thrallherd 3 </strong>[Manifester Level 7 + <em>Overchannel</em>]</p><p>12 WIS, 18 CHA [Raised at 4 and 8 or added <em>Cloak of Charisma</em>]</p><p>Expanded Knowledge (Mindlink); Psionic Body and Psionic Talent <em>[Not really even necessary]</em></p><p>Any race</p><p></p><p>Only accept thralls that have Psionic Talent as a feat, preferably they have it twice or three times (Psionic Body may be okay, too: see above). </p><p>If they don't, you can just kill them, and get a new thrall the next day. This has no adverse effect on your "Leadership" score relative to Thralls.</p><p>With a 10-12 WIS and a Periapt of WIS +2 or +4 for a total WIS of 14, you should be able to steal 2 feats per Thrall. Some of them may only have 1 Feat (2 if Human), but that's okay.</p><p></p><p>Assuming that each of your followers has <u>one and only one</u> instance of Psionic Talent <em>(even though you should have been culling a much better herd than that by now <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> )</em>:</p><p><em>Feat Leech</em> only costs 3 PP. This means that each time you steal <u>Psionic Talent</u> you are getting <u>at least</u> 4 PP for a net of 1--minimum--per Feat Leech.</p><p><strong>Thrallherd "score" = 8 (Char Lvl) + 4 (Cha) + 3 (PrC Lvl) = 15</strong></p><p>[code]Thrall followers by level</p><p>1st 2nd 3rd</p><p>20 2 1</p><p>Thrall (cohort) of 7th Level[/code]</p><p></p><p>Stealing 23~ish Psionic Talents costs 23 x 3 PP = 69 PP</p><p>You gain +3 +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 +9 +10 +11 +12 +13 +14 +15 +16 +17 +18 +19 +20 +21 +22 +23 +24 +25 = 322 PP</p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-size: 26px">Net gain = 253 Power Points</span></span></p><p></p><p>When your PP run out 7 minutes later*, you just do it again! (Assuming you saved yourself 3 PP). Steal/use <u>Extend Power</u> while you're at it, it only costs +2 PP. You would still net 207 PP, but would have all your bonus PP for 14 minutes. </p><p></p><p>* It will take you 23 rounds to do this, leaving you 47 rounds of full PP (117 rounds with Extend).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ariel23, post: 2780848, member: 13884"] If you want to make others decisions for them, [i]why have a poll?[/i] If you're so convinced its horrid, it should get zero votes, anyway... Feat leech uses: 1) Build a [b]Pyschic Warrior[/b] with Psionic Body and a lot of psionic feats (preferably Psionic Talent). With a good WIS, you can steal multiple feats at once, btw. [u]Two[/u] Psionic Bodies and 5 psionic feats (total)= +20 HP, but it could be [i]much[/i] worse than that, given a Psychic Warrior's bonus feats. Who says that if you have two instances of Psionic Body that you don't gain HP for [u]both[/u] of them? :] 2) Build a Thrallherd. Even a fairly modest one: [b]Wilder 5/Thrallherd 3 [/b][Manifester Level 7 + [i]Overchannel[/i]] 12 WIS, 18 CHA [Raised at 4 and 8 or added [i]Cloak of Charisma[/i]] Expanded Knowledge (Mindlink); Psionic Body and Psionic Talent [i][Not really even necessary][/i] Any race Only accept thralls that have Psionic Talent as a feat, preferably they have it twice or three times (Psionic Body may be okay, too: see above). If they don't, you can just kill them, and get a new thrall the next day. This has no adverse effect on your "Leadership" score relative to Thralls. With a 10-12 WIS and a Periapt of WIS +2 or +4 for a total WIS of 14, you should be able to steal 2 feats per Thrall. Some of them may only have 1 Feat (2 if Human), but that's okay. Assuming that each of your followers has [u]one and only one[/u] instance of Psionic Talent [i](even though you should have been culling a much better herd than that by now ;) )[/i]: [i]Feat Leech[/i] only costs 3 PP. This means that each time you steal [u]Psionic Talent[/u] you are getting [u]at least[/u] 4 PP for a net of 1--minimum--per Feat Leech. [b]Thrallherd "score" = 8 (Char Lvl) + 4 (Cha) + 3 (PrC Lvl) = 15[/b] [code]Thrall followers by level 1st 2nd 3rd 20 2 1 Thrall (cohort) of 7th Level[/code] Stealing 23~ish Psionic Talents costs 23 x 3 PP = 69 PP You gain +3 +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 +9 +10 +11 +12 +13 +14 +15 +16 +17 +18 +19 +20 +21 +22 +23 +24 +25 = 322 PP [color=red][size=22]Net gain = 253 Power Points[/size][/color] When your PP run out 7 minutes later*, you just do it again! (Assuming you saved yourself 3 PP). Steal/use [u]Extend Power[/u] while you're at it, it only costs +2 PP. You would still net 207 PP, but would have all your bonus PP for 14 minutes. * It will take you 23 rounds to do this, leaving you 47 rounds of full PP (117 rounds with Extend). [/QUOTE]
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