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<blockquote data-quote="Scurvy_Platypus" data-source="post: 4346979" data-attributes="member: 43283"><p>It's kinda funny... I've _never_ met a single person that plays the game. Never knew anyone that even knew there was an rpg. Only the minis. That covers a 20 year span, and living all over the U.S. and in Canada too.</p><p></p><p>But online, yeah I see it talked about. A quiet under-current, but it's there.</p><p></p><p>It's anecdotal evidence, sure. My main point being that "big" is an extremely relative term. Especially if you're relying on the internet to try and gauge the "size" or popularity of something.</p><p></p><p>I mean, if I was to belive the internet, I should be collecting books, lost at least one group to MMOs, and have gotten rid of all of my "dead" games since everyone was only playing D&D 3.x.</p><p></p><p>I do raise an eyebrow every time I see someone talking about the "huge" release of Dark Heresy. I have yet to see a single substantiated bit of information for it being a "huge" release, other than the fact that an extremely small number of collector edition books sold out in 6 minutes.</p><p></p><p>A lot of the people that appear to have picked up Dark Heresy were also fans of WHFRPG to start with. So that kind of muddles things, along with the fact that you can expect at least some of the books to have been picked up by non-rpg players looking for another source of fluff. As well as speculators, since as soon as the game was released, the news came out the GW was dropping the game. At the time it looked like it was still-born, and there wasn't going to be anything else. The deal with FFG came later. Which means that speculators bought up extra copies of the book too.</p><p></p><p>I'm not saying the game doesn't have fans. I'm just not sure how "big" the game really is.</p><p></p><p>And also... FFG? Not exactly the most reliable company out there for RPGs. They tend to pick stuff up, put out a few books, and then the line dies. Midnight being the notable exception to the rule.</p><p></p><p>Their non-d20 version of Grimm? I think that was a year overdue at least. Anima? That's over a year overdue. Granted, Anima has had some complications (a translator passed away?) but still...</p><p></p><p>Hopefully they don't do the same thing with WHFRPG/Dark Heresy. Despite having never met a fan, I know there's going to be some disappointed somewhere if FFG drop the ball.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scurvy_Platypus, post: 4346979, member: 43283"] It's kinda funny... I've _never_ met a single person that plays the game. Never knew anyone that even knew there was an rpg. Only the minis. That covers a 20 year span, and living all over the U.S. and in Canada too. But online, yeah I see it talked about. A quiet under-current, but it's there. It's anecdotal evidence, sure. My main point being that "big" is an extremely relative term. Especially if you're relying on the internet to try and gauge the "size" or popularity of something. I mean, if I was to belive the internet, I should be collecting books, lost at least one group to MMOs, and have gotten rid of all of my "dead" games since everyone was only playing D&D 3.x. I do raise an eyebrow every time I see someone talking about the "huge" release of Dark Heresy. I have yet to see a single substantiated bit of information for it being a "huge" release, other than the fact that an extremely small number of collector edition books sold out in 6 minutes. A lot of the people that appear to have picked up Dark Heresy were also fans of WHFRPG to start with. So that kind of muddles things, along with the fact that you can expect at least some of the books to have been picked up by non-rpg players looking for another source of fluff. As well as speculators, since as soon as the game was released, the news came out the GW was dropping the game. At the time it looked like it was still-born, and there wasn't going to be anything else. The deal with FFG came later. Which means that speculators bought up extra copies of the book too. I'm not saying the game doesn't have fans. I'm just not sure how "big" the game really is. And also... FFG? Not exactly the most reliable company out there for RPGs. They tend to pick stuff up, put out a few books, and then the line dies. Midnight being the notable exception to the rule. Their non-d20 version of Grimm? I think that was a year overdue at least. Anima? That's over a year overdue. Granted, Anima has had some complications (a translator passed away?) but still... Hopefully they don't do the same thing with WHFRPG/Dark Heresy. Despite having never met a fan, I know there's going to be some disappointed somewhere if FFG drop the ball. [/QUOTE]
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