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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Patryn of Elvenshae" data-source="post: 2479703" data-attributes="member: 23094">Exactly.  And any other abilities that trigger on you flanking an opponent (I can't recall any off the top of my head, but I'm sure a feat or PrC somewhere mentions it).There's also the fact that some abilities depend on you being flanked (at least one tactical feat that I can think of).  If someone flanks you only when they get the bonus, then they flank you only during their turn, and only when they're actually attacking you (or on an AoO, but still limited to attacking you).For instance:If you are only flanking me while you make an attack, then I'm flanked only while you're making an attack, and there's no one else who is flanking.  The rules text above is therefore nonsensical.That's really where my argument stops.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Whether or not it's what they meant, that's what the rules say.  I argue this position only as an exercise in the ancient art of "Huh ... I wonder if they meant to do that?"  I don't actually expect anyone (let alone everyone) to adopt it.</blockquote>