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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 319237" data-attributes="member: 172">Unless it has escapted your attention, this thread is about adventures, so that is where I targeted my comments. There are d20 system adventures in which the necessary rules material (which is to say, things like stat blocks, traps, etc.) are every bit as up to snuff as WotC adventures.Creating rules? Adventures don't create rules. Adventures use rules. And do many d20 system adventures use the rules? Yes, they do.I will thank you not to mischaracterize my position WRT high level games. I like high level games. ELH is just not all it could be in this department.Of course, that challenges your perception of ELH's inherent esteem in your eyes, so I must be biased, right?Get over yourself.Has it occurred to you that my only reference to the ELH in this thread was a single blatantly wrong aspect of a character. Go ahead and tell me it's right.My point here isn't that the aforementioned d20 system publishers are perfect, but that WotC isn't perfect, either. SS&S, Necromancer, and Malhavoc are all on par or better than WotC with their latest products.I'm not exactly sure what the above statement is supposed to mean, but I won't sit here while you slander me. Provide me examples of this alleged bias.I don't know what the hell you have against me. I'm sorry you're so bitter you got sent packing regarding your "rose-colored glasses" veiw of the ELH, but you need to just get over it.LOL! What a riot!Sorry, no, you could not be more wrong. Where is Bramadan when you need him? It should be interesting to see his reaction when you try to tell him that I appreciate pretentious fluff text.While you are waiting, why don't you drop by my reviews of the Slayer's Guides and Rings of Power to get an earful of what I think of pretentious fluff text.I like many aspects of ELH. I really do. But you need to get over the idea that I am holding the ELH to a standard set by d20 vendors. Au contraire. The standard that I hold ELH is that which WotC set for themselves in MotP. And MotP is not just a book of "pretentious fluff text." It is a book filled with ideas and inspiration, and a way to bring those ideas to life. ELH needed a big dose of that. That would have taken it from being a good supplement to an outstanding one.So, is MotP just "pretentious fluff text" to you? Y'know the book I am talking about, right? The one at the top of the d20 top 20 list?Yes, I noticed it was a (rather off-topic) rant. And you most certainly are.</blockquote>

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