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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 5733794" data-attributes="member: 5889">So, in looking at all the classes in 4e right now, I'm not looking for the most powerful combo or anything like that. What I'm aiming to see are the classes just are the general cream of the crop. The ones you can make a lot of archetypes with that are all useful. The ones with lots of powerful choices.There are two off hand that come to mind.Fighter: The 4e standard fighter is probably one of the best &quot;fighters&quot; I have ever seen. Their defender mechanic is great, but they also do solid (near strikerish) damage if you take the powers for it, and they carry a lot of toughness.You can build sword/board or THW fighters with no problem, and regardless of build you come out with a class that gets the job done.Wizard: At the beginning of 4e, the wizard was okay. But the errata and splats have made it even better, and imo now overshadows the other core controllers.Wizards make great controllers, but can also do terrific damage with their daily powers. Further, their at-wills and encounter powers have been getting a steady power bump over time.they have lots of utilities that give both combat and noncombat benefits, and combined with rituals can still perform some of the legendary feats of old.So are there any other classes that you feel just have the same well rounded power about them as these classes?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 5733794, member: 5889"] So, in looking at all the classes in 4e right now, I'm not looking for the most powerful combo or anything like that. What I'm aiming to see are the classes just are the general cream of the crop. The ones you can make a lot of archetypes with that are all useful. The ones with lots of powerful choices. There are two off hand that come to mind. [B][SIZE="3"]Fighter[/SIZE][/B]: The 4e standard fighter is probably one of the best "fighters" I have ever seen. Their defender mechanic is great, but they also do solid (near strikerish) damage if you take the powers for it, and they carry a lot of toughness. You can build sword/board or THW fighters with no problem, and regardless of build you come out with a class that gets the job done. [SIZE="3"][B]Wizard[/B]:[/SIZE] At the beginning of 4e, the wizard was okay. But the errata and splats have made it even better, and imo now overshadows the other core controllers. Wizards make great controllers, but can also do terrific damage with their daily powers. Further, their at-wills and encounter powers have been getting a steady power bump over time. they have lots of utilities that give both combat and noncombat benefits, and combined with rituals can still perform some of the legendary feats of old. So are there any other classes that you feel just have the same well rounded power about them as these classes? [/QUOTE]

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