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<blockquote data-quote="Corinnguard" data-source="post: 9819108" data-attributes="member: 7033886"><p>This is probably one instance where you need to find a good homebrew of the class and run with it instead of the core version or Tasha's version. I would recommend the Alternate Ranger from Laser Llama.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.gmbinder.com/share/-M7iu19Af89SH2G_5RGa" target="_blank">Alternate Ranger by Laser Llama</a></p><p></p><p>It has a number of class features that make it better than what WoTC came up for the class. While the spell list is the same as the core/Tasha version, the Alternate Ranger is a prepared half-caster rather than a known half-caster (choose a number of spells = Wisdom modifier plus half your Ranger level, rounded down/long rest).</p><p></p><p>When it comes Dual Wielding, Laser Llama found a way around the bonus action problem faced by the core/Tasha version by allowing dual wielders to make your offhand attack a part of your Attack action. Thus, freeing up the bonus action for certain spells and the Ranger's Quarry feature (a non-spell, non-concentration version of Hunter's Mark that scales up in damage and duration). Another neat thing about the Alternate Ranger, it gains a Fighting Style at 1st level, not 2nd level)</p><p></p><p>The capstone for the Alternate Ranger, Foe Slayer, allows you to do maximum damage with Ranger's Quarry. And if this use of Ranger's Quarry drops your opponent to 50 hit points or less, they have to make a CON save or be dropped to zero.</p><p></p><p>The Alternate Ranger is a bit more customizable with its' Knack feature than the core/Tasha version. It also has made the Hunter subclass more appealing by giving it spells.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Agreed. Unless the GM actively knows how well-lit a given area is or the party is using torches or you ask about either one, you don't really know how effective Umbral Sight really is at any given moment. This issue really bummed out my Bugbear Ranger (Gloom Stalker)/Rogue (Scout). <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Corinnguard, post: 9819108, member: 7033886"] This is probably one instance where you need to find a good homebrew of the class and run with it instead of the core version or Tasha's version. I would recommend the Alternate Ranger from Laser Llama. [URL='https://www.gmbinder.com/share/-M7iu19Af89SH2G_5RGa']Alternate Ranger by Laser Llama[/URL] It has a number of class features that make it better than what WoTC came up for the class. While the spell list is the same as the core/Tasha version, the Alternate Ranger is a prepared half-caster rather than a known half-caster (choose a number of spells = Wisdom modifier plus half your Ranger level, rounded down/long rest). When it comes Dual Wielding, Laser Llama found a way around the bonus action problem faced by the core/Tasha version by allowing dual wielders to make your offhand attack a part of your Attack action. Thus, freeing up the bonus action for certain spells and the Ranger's Quarry feature (a non-spell, non-concentration version of Hunter's Mark that scales up in damage and duration). Another neat thing about the Alternate Ranger, it gains a Fighting Style at 1st level, not 2nd level) The capstone for the Alternate Ranger, Foe Slayer, allows you to do maximum damage with Ranger's Quarry. And if this use of Ranger's Quarry drops your opponent to 50 hit points or less, they have to make a CON save or be dropped to zero. The Alternate Ranger is a bit more customizable with its' Knack feature than the core/Tasha version. It also has made the Hunter subclass more appealing by giving it spells. Agreed. Unless the GM actively knows how well-lit a given area is or the party is using torches or you ask about either one, you don't really know how effective Umbral Sight really is at any given moment. This issue really bummed out my Bugbear Ranger (Gloom Stalker)/Rogue (Scout). :p [/QUOTE]
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