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Message: <blockquote data-quote="aboyd" data-source="post: 4857149" data-attributes="member: 44797">For me, the bad stuff is somewhat opposite of those here.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">If you expect my character to be heroic, screw it, I'm leaving.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">If players speak in character, I'm walking out.</li> </ul>Of course, I should be careful about that.  I'm not actually opposed to speaking in character.  That happens sometimes at one of the games I attend.  However, some people go too far.  We had a player who showed up to the first game with a hobo stick -- an actual stick with a bandanna sack tied to the end.  In the middle of play, he unties it (the player in real life, not the character), takes out a small totem-pole made of skulls, shakes it like a rattle and starts talking to the enemy (the DM) in a creepy "shaman voice."  We all sat there watching him speak in this horrible hybrid of cockney, french accent, and Louisiana drawl, and we just stared & stared as it got worse & worse.  He was quickly excused from the game.Another time, a guy was playing a wizard with a frog familiar.  We were fine with it through some initial combat encounters, where he was quite useful.  But then we got to our first social encounter, and when an NPC directed a comment to him, we all looked over the table at this new player, and he had a plastic bullfrog perched on his shoulder and began speaking in a possessed-demon voice.  I guess he thought it made his character seem scary or threatening, but I mostly just thought, "Who is this loon with the plastic toad?  Is he drunk?  Is he OK to drive home?  Does he own a car?  Does he have a home?  Maybe he lives under a bridge?"So yeah, speaking in character is maybe OK if you're sane and use your God-given voice to do it.  But showing up with props and a terrible accent?  Please, leave.Here are some other objections which are more in line with what other people have said:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I DM a group of Chaotic Neutral/Evil players who PvP all the time.  As a DM, I frankly find it to be just fine.  However, I recently swapped roles with one of the players so that I could take a temporary break, and I have to tell you that as a player, it pissed me right off.  It's annoying because I immediately thought, "This person sucks for initiating PvP."  I didn't know I would think that way until it happened.  But also, it was annoying because the guy had a crap monk, and he was picking fights with the older guys who come here to do character optimization.  So I grew more annoyed because he didn't even seem good at what he was doing.  So I'm pretty sure PvP is a big no-go for me as a player.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Belching, farting, eating with your mouth open.  I played with a guy who did all those things many times over the course of a single game session.  He didn't apologize, didn't say "pardon me," didn't even try to stop it.  We were all like, "You sure you want another Coke?  Maybe water instead?  No?  Shoot."  I was so happy to leave that game.  I would leave new games if similar types showed up.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Railroading.  Our party was ambushed, and the DM put about 15 enemies on the battlemat.  We were very low-level and the time, and seeing all those enemies was surprising.  I said something like, "Really?  Fifteen?"  And he confirmed it.  So we wanted to run.  The DM told us we were cornered and would have to fight our way out.  But I could see on the battlemat that he hadn't drawn it that way, which I pointed out, and which he immediately corrected by sort of slashing at the mat with a pen, which left a long black line down the middle.  "IT'S A WALL," he tells us.  OK, so as we got slaughtered, he started pulling pieces off the battlemat.  I said, "Wait, where's that guy going?"  And he told me that it wasn't a bad guy.  I knew it most certainly was -- he confirmed it at the start.  Then he did it again, and suddenly I really started disrespecting the DM's style.  He forced us into an unfair fight and then wouldn't allow the natural, obvious TPK that should have come of it.  It began to feel like he was just incompetent, so I left.</li> </ul></blockquote>

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