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<blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 7008852" data-attributes="member: 6787650">Other way around. An Allosaurus that charges has a damage ceiling almost identical to a rhino's, but it has to jump through a lot more hoops to get the same damage. Much of the time it will just get a claw attack, not a claw and a bite. I'm drawing an analogy to disadvantage here because I'd guesstimate that an Allosaurus will do about the same damage that a rhino would if the rhino had disadvantage.E.g. against an AC 16 Bugbear, a charging rhino will hit on a 9+ for 4d8+5 damage, yielding DPR of 14.70 and knocking the Bugbear prone (60% * 60%) 36% of the time. If it were attacking at disadvantage, it would have a DPR of 8.33.Against an AC 16 Bugbear, a charging Allosaurus will hit with its claw on a 10+ for d8+4, yielding DPR of 4.9. It will knock the Bugbear prone (55% * 50%) 27.5% of the time, and if it does it will get an extra attack hitting on 10+ for 2d10+4, which is 8.8 DPR. Its total DPR is (4.9 + 0.275 * 8.8) is 7.32.The Allosaurus's DPR without disadvantage is lower than the rhino's DPR with disadvantage. Allosaurs are bad at doing damage.The higher the target's AC and/or Strength save, the more the Allosaur's limitations hurt.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FormerlyHemlock, post: 7008852, member: 6787650"] Other way around. An Allosaurus that charges has a damage ceiling almost identical to a rhino's, but it has to jump through a lot more hoops to get the same damage. Much of the time it will just get a claw attack, not a claw and a bite. I'm drawing an analogy to disadvantage here because I'd guesstimate that an Allosaurus will do about the same damage that a rhino would if the rhino had disadvantage. E.g. against an AC 16 Bugbear, a charging rhino will hit on a 9+ for 4d8+5 damage, yielding DPR of [B]14.70[/B] and knocking the Bugbear prone (60% * 60%) 36% of the time. If it were attacking at disadvantage, it would have a DPR of [B]8.33[/B]. Against an AC 16 Bugbear, a charging Allosaurus will hit with its claw on a 10+ for d8+4, yielding DPR of 4.9. It will knock the Bugbear prone (55% * 50%) 27.5% of the time, and if it does it will get an extra attack hitting on 10+ for 2d10+4, which is 8.8 DPR. Its total DPR is (4.9 + 0.275 * 8.8) is [B]7.32[/B]. The Allosaurus's DPR without disadvantage is lower than the rhino's DPR [I]with[/I] disadvantage. Allosaurs are bad at doing damage. The higher the target's AC and/or Strength save, the more the Allosaur's limitations hurt. [/QUOTE]

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