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Message: <blockquote data-quote="squibbles" data-source="post: 8462717" data-attributes="member: 6937590">Awesome, thanks for that.Those consequences all feel like good things to me, especially if players did their score targeting meta-game within the setting fiction.Also, looking at it laid out that way, “True” NADs (and saving throws too) have a really anemic progression, even for proficient saves.Good point. But it's easy enough to avoid giving PCs those kinds of items.Huh. In the 8 + ability mod + prof mod setup, that would create an interesting symmetry between defensive and offensive progression, since both would come principally from ASIs--though I'm not sure I really like that.Thanks for your reply, it's good food for thought.</blockquote>