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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 367062" data-attributes="member: 996">Maybe, sometimes the critical moment occurs while the caster is still buffing himself up.&nbsp; Sometimes it's after he's used up all his buffs.&nbsp; Sometimes luck and planning are on his side.That often has a lot more to do with circumstance and/or relative degree of powergaming among the players.&nbsp; Caster-only 'buffs' can make fighters look bad - if the casters /always/ seem to have time or advance notice to get thier buffs ready, and they never get dispelled, and they never find themselves at the start of a fight without a buff available, etc......What it comes down to is that a caster who devotes the right spells to doing so, can match a fighter type in melee, for a time.&nbsp; He can't really brutally exceed the fighter's melee ability that way, though, only rival it, and he can't do it all the time.&nbsp; Casters, especially as they level, do gain a great deal of versatility, and such buff spells are part of that.&nbsp; But, they have to be played right, and given the right opportunities to take full advantage of that versatility, and there will be times, in a balanced campaign, when they can't.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 367062, member: 996"] Maybe, sometimes the critical moment occurs while the caster is still buffing himself up. Sometimes it's after he's used up all his buffs. Sometimes luck and planning are on his side. [B][/B] That often has a lot more to do with circumstance and/or relative degree of powergaming among the players. Caster-only 'buffs' can make fighters look bad - if the casters /always/ seem to have time or advance notice to get thier buffs ready, and they never get dispelled, and they never find themselves at the start of a fight without a buff available, etc... ... What it comes down to is that a caster who devotes the right spells to doing so, can match a fighter type in melee, for a time. He can't really brutally exceed the fighter's melee ability that way, though, only rival it, and he can't do it all the time. Casters, especially as they level, do gain a great deal of versatility, and such buff spells are part of that. But, they have to be played right, and given the right opportunities to take full advantage of that versatility, and there will be times, in a balanced campaign, when they can't. [/QUOTE]

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