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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 6503102" data-attributes="member: 957">But you don't have to agree.You don't have to do anything.If you would like to understand the situation then you should try to understand that for a lot of people (clearly not all, but a lot) D&amp;D was played for many years and character &quot;roles&quot; existed within the narrative and flowed naturally without being bolted into the mechanics.&nbsp; It is a different way of going at it.&nbsp; &nbsp; Clearly not everyone played prior editions this way.&nbsp; I'll readily admit I was surprised to learn that what would now be called &quot;the 4E perspective&quot; was reasonably common.&nbsp; &nbsp; But 4E embraced that one perspective.&nbsp; Which is great for people who love that perspective.&nbsp; But when you say that roles, as defined in the context of 4E, are as old as setting marching order, you are simply showing a lack of awareness of who MANY other people experienced the game, and frankly, a lack of open-mindedness to accepting this reality.&nbsp; There is nothing remotely wrong with enjoying your version.&nbsp; But it is not constructive to blindly reject that there are differences between your preference and others.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 6503102, member: 957"] But you don't have to agree. You don't have to do anything. If you would like to understand the situation then you should try to understand that for a lot of people (clearly not all, but a lot) D&D was played for many years and character "roles" existed within the narrative and flowed naturally without being bolted into the mechanics. It is a different way of going at it. Clearly not everyone played prior editions this way. I'll readily admit I was surprised to learn that what would now be called "the 4E perspective" was reasonably common. But 4E embraced that one perspective. Which is great for people who love that perspective. But when you say that roles, as defined in the context of 4E, are as old as setting marching order, you are simply showing a lack of awareness of who MANY other people experienced the game, and frankly, a lack of open-mindedness to accepting this reality. There is nothing remotely wrong with enjoying your version. But it is not constructive to blindly reject that there are differences between your preference and others. [/QUOTE]

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