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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 6503218" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>Um... no.</p><p></p><p>In D&D, no matter what the edition before you hit tenth level your actual profession is the same. Adventurer. To use the analogy, all D&D characters are professional American Football players.</p><p></p><p>The difference between profession and role is that the 2e Profession says "Heavy armour, slow moving, can take a hit and can catch people as they run past". The 4e role would simply say "Makes a good Lineman" - but there is no reason you actually have to play lineman with that character other than they've got all the features indicated by a lineman by the 2e profession. I've tanked with an invoker before now. There's a running joke between myself and the other most experienced 4e player that whatever class I play the end result is controller, and whatever she plays is a striker.</p><p></p><p>And your position can't be at any role on the football field in 2e. If you choose fighter you're limited to the offensive or defensive line. You are absolutely terrible at playing healbot, wizard, or skillmonkey. Cleric can play either line or half/quarterback. Wizards are always backs. Put a wizard in the line and they turn into strawberry jam. And a fighter can't cover their role.</p><p></p><p>4e on the other hand you can build your fighter as a lineman (offensive or defensive) with no problem at all. You can build with skills and stealth to play a hard hitting receiver (Thief) - I've had six trained skills with a level 1 fighter. You can grab Ritual Caster and go lock down the enemy in melee, turning you into a running back. And you can even heal and fill in as a leader through a couple of multiclass feats.</p><p></p><p>So yes, tomato tomato. Your actual profession, when used not as a term of art is exactly the same. Adventurer. And with fighters and rogues being far more locked down in 2e than they are 4e.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 6503218, member: 87792"] Um... no. In D&D, no matter what the edition before you hit tenth level your actual profession is the same. Adventurer. To use the analogy, all D&D characters are professional American Football players. The difference between profession and role is that the 2e Profession says "Heavy armour, slow moving, can take a hit and can catch people as they run past". The 4e role would simply say "Makes a good Lineman" - but there is no reason you actually have to play lineman with that character other than they've got all the features indicated by a lineman by the 2e profession. I've tanked with an invoker before now. There's a running joke between myself and the other most experienced 4e player that whatever class I play the end result is controller, and whatever she plays is a striker. And your position can't be at any role on the football field in 2e. If you choose fighter you're limited to the offensive or defensive line. You are absolutely terrible at playing healbot, wizard, or skillmonkey. Cleric can play either line or half/quarterback. Wizards are always backs. Put a wizard in the line and they turn into strawberry jam. And a fighter can't cover their role. 4e on the other hand you can build your fighter as a lineman (offensive or defensive) with no problem at all. You can build with skills and stealth to play a hard hitting receiver (Thief) - I've had six trained skills with a level 1 fighter. You can grab Ritual Caster and go lock down the enemy in melee, turning you into a running back. And you can even heal and fill in as a leader through a couple of multiclass feats. So yes, tomato tomato. Your actual profession, when used not as a term of art is exactly the same. Adventurer. And with fighters and rogues being far more locked down in 2e than they are 4e. [/QUOTE]
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