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<blockquote data-quote="Sadras" data-source="post: 6504864" data-attributes="member: 6688277"><p>4e design process - match classes to roles - build powers to accentuate roles.</p><p>5e design process - identify class - build abilities thematic to the class.</p><p></p><p>You're saying roles are hidden. I'm saying because the design process is different, roles do not exist.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In 5e, the Rogue is doing less damage than my Fighter, so by my standards the Striker role does not exist. Where you and I might disagree is the definition of Striker. But let us see how 4e defines Striker (page 16 of 4e's PHB1)</p><p></p><p><strong>Strikers specialise in dealing high amounts of damage to a single target at a time.</strong> Not true in 5e, the disparity in damage is far less in 5e. And a case can be made that the Fighter does more damage than the Rogue at certain levels. </p><p> </p><p><strong>They have the most concentrated offense of any character.</strong> Not true for 5e.</p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Strikers rely on superior mobility, trickery or magic to move around tough foes and single out enemies they want to attack.</strong> True for 5e.</p><p></p><p>So out of the three Striker requirements as defined in 4e, only 1 has been fulfilled in 5e which does not make a strong case for Roles existing in 5e.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sadras, post: 6504864, member: 6688277"] 4e design process - match classes to roles - build powers to accentuate roles. 5e design process - identify class - build abilities thematic to the class. You're saying roles are hidden. I'm saying because the design process is different, roles do not exist. In 5e, the Rogue is doing less damage than my Fighter, so by my standards the Striker role does not exist. Where you and I might disagree is the definition of Striker. But let us see how 4e defines Striker (page 16 of 4e's PHB1) [B]Strikers specialise in dealing high amounts of damage to a single target at a time.[/B] Not true in 5e, the disparity in damage is far less in 5e. And a case can be made that the Fighter does more damage than the Rogue at certain levels. [B]They have the most concentrated offense of any character.[/B] Not true for 5e. [B] Strikers rely on superior mobility, trickery or magic to move around tough foes and single out enemies they want to attack.[/B] True for 5e. So out of the three Striker requirements as defined in 4e, only 1 has been fulfilled in 5e which does not make a strong case for Roles existing in 5e. [/QUOTE]
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