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<blockquote data-quote="Ashrym" data-source="post: 6506583" data-attributes="member: 6750235"><p>Class Acts are in the archive from 2004 at the WotC website with some more functions and roles. This is from the 3.5 PHB</p><p></p><p>Pg 24 "<strong>Role</strong>: A barbarian’s typical primary role in a group of adventurers is as a <strong>front-line combat specialist</strong>. No other character can match his sheer toughness. He can also serve as a good <strong>scout</strong>, thanks to his speed, skill selection, and trap sense."</p><p></p><p>Pg 27 "<strong>Role</strong>: The bard is perhaps the ultimate <strong>generalist</strong>. In most adventuring groups, he works best in a <strong>supporting role</strong>. He can’t usually match the stealth of the ranger or the rogue, the spellcasting power of the cleric or the wizard, or the combat prowess of the barbarian or the fighter. However, he makes all the other characters better at what they do, and he can often fill in for another character when needed. For a typical group of four characters, the bard is perhaps the most useful fifth character to consider adding, and he can make a great <strong>team leader</strong>."</p><p></p><p>Pg 31 "<strong>Role</strong>: The cleric serves as a typical group’s primary <strong>healer</strong>, <strong>diviner</strong>, and <strong>defensive specialist</strong>. He can hold his own in a fight but usually isn’t well served by charging to the front of combat. The cleric’s domains and spell selection can greatly affect his role as well."</p><p></p><p>Those are 3 classes with roles listed just by going in order in the 3.5 PHB, and predate 4e planning by years. Each class had an entry for role.</p><p></p><p>That should demonstrate my position better, but whether WotC was working on 4e or not isn't relevant to the previous link because it was in regard to 3.5 at the time, and also specified from the start of the game such roles existed. Future development beyond that point being the reason for that article and claiming the article was incorrect in it's statement regarding previous editions is jumping to a conclusion after the fact and implying deceitful intent, which is not a safe assumption as a point in the debate. When that article did come out there was no 4e to which it could be applied and therefore it must have applied as written to existing editions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ashrym, post: 6506583, member: 6750235"] Class Acts are in the archive from 2004 at the WotC website with some more functions and roles. This is from the 3.5 PHB Pg 24 "[B]Role[/B]: A barbarian’s typical primary role in a group of adventurers is as a [B]front-line combat specialist[/B]. No other character can match his sheer toughness. He can also serve as a good [B]scout[/B], thanks to his speed, skill selection, and trap sense." Pg 27 "[B]Role[/B]: The bard is perhaps the ultimate [B]generalist[/B]. In most adventuring groups, he works best in a [B]supporting role[/B]. He can’t usually match the stealth of the ranger or the rogue, the spellcasting power of the cleric or the wizard, or the combat prowess of the barbarian or the fighter. However, he makes all the other characters better at what they do, and he can often fill in for another character when needed. For a typical group of four characters, the bard is perhaps the most useful fifth character to consider adding, and he can make a great [B]team leader[/B]." Pg 31 "[B]Role[/B]: The cleric serves as a typical group’s primary [B]healer[/B], [B]diviner[/B], and [B]defensive specialist[/B]. He can hold his own in a fight but usually isn’t well served by charging to the front of combat. The cleric’s domains and spell selection can greatly affect his role as well." Those are 3 classes with roles listed just by going in order in the 3.5 PHB, and predate 4e planning by years. Each class had an entry for role. That should demonstrate my position better, but whether WotC was working on 4e or not isn't relevant to the previous link because it was in regard to 3.5 at the time, and also specified from the start of the game such roles existed. Future development beyond that point being the reason for that article and claiming the article was incorrect in it's statement regarding previous editions is jumping to a conclusion after the fact and implying deceitful intent, which is not a safe assumption as a point in the debate. When that article did come out there was no 4e to which it could be applied and therefore it must have applied as written to existing editions. [/QUOTE]
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