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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6506645" data-attributes="member: 42582">I'm not that fussed about what p 16 of the PHB says. I'm interested in how the game plays.A fighter in 4e can be played as a controller: I know, because I have that fighter in my 4e game. The ability to stop movement, to draw in and lock down enemies (Come and Get It is key to this), and Polearm Gamble from paragon tier, all make the fighter a viable controller.A fighter can also be built to deal striker-level damage, as is well-known.Warlords can be built to play, in effect, as strikers by giving high-damage PCs bonus attacks.Warlocks are very capable single-target controllers.The guidelines in the PHB as to class role are just that - guidelines to give a player who is wondering what to do with the character some advice.The line in the 4e PHB that tells you a fighter is a defender is no different from the line on p 24 of the Basic PDF:fighters . . . all share an unparalleled mastery with weapons and armor, and a thorough knowledge of the skills of combat. And they are well acquainted with death, both meting it out and staring it defiantly in the face.That is also advice on how to play my fighter: if in doubt about how to make an impact with my PC, I should look for approaches to the game that deploy weapons, armour and a readiness to deal out and confront the risk of death.</blockquote>