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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 6508207" data-attributes="member: 67338">yup...I don't understand why people through that around without any mention of MMOs...this... a simple 1 word (or keyword if you like) that explains to people... I can even understand expanding the roles (or keywords) it isn't about limits it's about forewarning and sending info...again I have in the last 3 edition and pathfinder seen the &quot;Rogue&quot; question come up... it just came up in my first 5e chatacter creation night... If your concept is to be a non combat spy/thief why do you know how to hit things harder... I saw this question in 2e in the reverse... A newish player made a fighter, and specialized in short sword and was going to fight with one and a spear in his off hand. He had larped before and like this style of using the spear like a shield 9/10 of the time then switching up... when he saw his first backstab he asked &quot;Why can't I be trained to do that, I just do combat.&quot; In 3e it started showing up the reverse... &quot;Why do I know how to deliver presion damge.&quot; 4e gave an easy answer &quot;Your class is striker, your combat role is to deal damage, if you want to go less damage I have other classes you can play.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 6508207, member: 67338"] yup...I don't understand why people through that around without any mention of MMOs... this... a simple 1 word (or keyword if you like) that explains to people... I can even understand expanding the roles (or keywords) it isn't about limits it's about forewarning and sending info... again I have in the last 3 edition and pathfinder seen the "Rogue" question come up... it just came up in my first 5e chatacter creation night... If your concept is to be a non combat spy/thief why do you know how to hit things harder... I saw this question in 2e in the reverse... A newish player made a fighter, and specialized in short sword and was going to fight with one and a spear in his off hand. He had larped before and like this style of using the spear like a shield 9/10 of the time then switching up... when he saw his first backstab he asked "Why can't I be trained to do that, I just do combat." In 3e it started showing up the reverse... "Why do I know how to deliver presion damge." 4e gave an easy answer "Your class is striker, your combat role is to deal damage, if you want to go less damage I have other classes you can play." [/QUOTE]

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