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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Eric V" data-source="post: 6509541" data-attributes="member: 6779717">The confusion over this is weird, since (at least in the PHB2 onwards) 4e classes also identified secondary roles for them, and certainly people on charop boards did the same.  I know I am missing some of the conversation here since at least one participant is on my ignore list, but there definitely seems to be some misunderstandings on AEDU structure, and levels of role effectiveness (fighters as healers, for example), that makes me believe some 4e statements are being made by people who played very little 4e.Again, WotC made a good decision to "disguise" 4e influence on the game, but I believe it's led to some of the confusion we see here.</blockquote>